Prussia at start of Grand Campaign

[gwgardner]

Why does Prussia at the start of the Grand Campaign require almost 12000 gold to go to tech level 2 for land, while other countries like Castile require less than 2000.

Also why does Byzantium, for instance, have the stability slider always set near completion, even after just going up a level in stability?

Thanks for any responses.

 

[unmerged(7624)]

No idea about the first one...

Byzantium is feckin small, and I would assume has relatively high serfdom and/or narrowmindedness. When you've only got 2 provinces, it's not that hard to keep them stable

 

[unmerged(6472)]

Originally posted by Waico
No idea about the first one...

Byzantium is feckin small, and I would assume has relatively high serfdom and/or narrowmindedness. When you've only got 2 provinces, it's not that hard to keep them stable

Yes, Byzantium has 10 serfdom, doesn't get any worse/better. Stability is easy as Byzantium.

Never played Prussia, but if they start at Tech Level 1 when the rest of the world is Tech Level 0 the cost would be high because they are ahead of historical "goal" which says you should hit Tech Level 1 around 1429 and Tech Level 2 around 1450. If you get ahead of history, there is a very large penalty to slow you down. Otherwise, no idea.

 

[Castellon]

Castile starts at tech 1 as well. I have not looked at the two countries starting DP settings but they can make a huge difference in tech research. When you played each country, did you play at different difficulty levels, I don't know if this effects tech cost.

 

[gwgardner]

Difficulty is set at normal. Thanks for the info about the slider settings for serfdom, etc. I hadn't considered those as a factor.

 

[kurtbrian]

Prussia starts at tech level 2 in 1419 not 1, and that would explain the rather high tech cost, since most other countries start at land tech 1

 

[Mammut]

Yeah and they get there ass whiped like their armies are made of cannons. I haven't been able to stop the Poles to DoW me and take what ever they want.

 

[Sikker]

Don't fight the Poles ...ally with them.
Start by getting a RM with them, then save up 3 dip's. One for breaking your alliance, one for breaking your vassalage, and one for joining Poland. Et voila! You've gone from certain death to having a super powerful big-brother that guarantees you will never loose a war!
- It works for me at least ...

 

[Mammut]

I tried with RM and it only postphoned their DoW with about 6 months, not enough to even recruit cav.

 

[Jon Shafer]

Playing as Prussia is pretty hard. Playing to save Prussia is easier. I'm playing Brandenburg right now (easier to create Kingdom of Prussia), and I created an alliance with Saxony, Magdeburg, and Wurzburg right from the start. Once Poland gets Prussia-happy, I declared war on Poland while they were busy elsewhere (probably Pommerania or Prussia). I march right in on them, and watch as the large coalition decimates their army after a while, siege their cities, and poof. I own 3/4 of Poland and Prussia is saved. My stupid alliance did nothing though... how annoying. :\ The only problem now is keeping the Teutonic Order from annexing Prussia.

 

[Secret Master]

Under 1.05, Prussia is much easier to play against the Poles in the early game.

Giving them Danzig at the start, and giving them Tech level 1, along with small forts in all provinces, makes life as ducal Prussia much easier.

Of course, the smart Prussia player waits for Denmark to militarily annex half the Hanseatic League, then "liberates" all those cities (Mecklemburg in particular) to Prussian rule.

 

[Jon Shafer]

Ahhh, but unless the Prussian alliance has some incredible luck, Prussia will get crushed by the dual Poland/Lithuania pincer. As much support as possible must be enlisted against Poland, and (if possible), join Poland instead of fight them. That will give you a great advantage (who wouldn't want Lithuania and Poland as allies? They add a minimum of around 100 thousand troops). Unfortuneatly, that's quite difficult, since when you break your vassalage with the Teutonic Order (and the alliance), people get mad at you. Better get some practice for MP. *Cracks his knuckles*