Provinces for released nations

[Justinian7]

I don't think there should be any restriction on what you can release as a satellite other than that it should be limited to core provinces and provinces where the nationality has say 25%+ of the population, and it should have to be one contigous state.

If people want to create satellites with only a small proportion of a country's cores they should be allowed to, so long as any benefit the game associates with it like reduction of militancy is reduced commensurately.

 

[Colon]

Who says there's still going to be satellites in Vic2?

 

[Cinéad IV]

Who says there's still going to be satellites in Vic2?

Well, I really hope there are. I much prefer indirect rule, and that's in Vicky 1 where satelites bring you very little benefit as the master.

 

[gadajs]

Well, assuming that if there are satellites, they will be within your SOI. This means that they will be a market for your goods, and a supplier for your raw material needs. This is a good thing yes?

 

[Rabid]

Well, assuming that if there are satellites, they will be within your SOI. This means that they will be a market for your goods, and a supplier for your raw material needs. This is a good thing yes?

I would hope this is how satellites will work; it more or less fits exactly the German Empire's plans for the post-war world in the East, a sphere of influence of smaller states dominated economically (SoI) and politically (satellite status) by Germany.

 

[Colon]

Seems a little redundant having them as satellites if they're in your sphere of influence anyway and you can form alliances on the military level.

 

[Cinéad IV]

I should imagine that a satellite would be in your SOI by default.

I do hope the system of satelites, dominions and so on will be refined. It would be nice if, as the master nation, you could choose just how much autonomy you are prepared to devolve to a client.

 

[Aragos]

and bloody georgetowns :rofl:

seconded!
Georgetowns and Londons, etc. Always confusing when the US ends up with a piece of New Zealand, when all you wanted was a province in Canada!:rofl:

 

[Andrelvis]

Well, assuming that if there are satellites, they will be within your SOI. This means that they will be a market for your goods, and a supplier for your raw material needs. This is a good thing yes?

It is, but what if you have and a satellite and aren't a great power?

 

[Colon]

I should imagine that a satellite would be in your SOI by default.

But you can bring countries into your sphere of influence without them being satellites so what would be the point keeping the feature in the game?

 

[Cinéad IV]

But you can bring countries into your sphere of influence without them being satellites so what would be the point keeping the feature in the game?

I'm guessing a satellite would imply more direct control over a country's affairs than simply being in someone's SOI.

SOI, so far as I understand it, is basically a guarantee of independence, and gives the GP first dibs on the goods you produce.
Satellite status, as in Vicky 1, gives you complete control over a nation's foreign policy, and implies a much more direct client-master relationship than an SOI.

To put it into a real life context: Argentina was in Britain's SOI in the C19th, but wasn't a satellite. The Argentines still followed their own foreign policy, and pursued their own diplomacy, they were simply economically dependent on the UK. "Satellite", for me, implies a much more political and formal relationship than SOI.

EDIT: 1000th post FTW

 

[Colon]

That a country inside a sphere of influence automatically gets a guarantee as well has only been speculated upon (amongst others by me).