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Makes sense that there is no province names. It allows them to add more provinces :D. The only problem is that achievements with savvy names can't be used ex: Bhutan Batan, as Bhutan own Batan.
 
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Makes sense that there is no province names. It allows them to add more provinces :D. The only problem is that achievements with savvy names can't be used ex: Bhutan Batan, as Bhutan own Batan.

I'm not sure it resulted in more provinces. If you actually compare, what it did was reduce the size of the provinces themselves so the overall map is actually smaller as a result.

The smaller scale was the first thing I noticed
 
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There are more provinces, especially in places like China, as there is more uniformity of size.
The only problem is that achievements with savvy names can't be used ex: Bhutan Batan, as Bhutan own Batan.
Why not? All you need is Batan to be either a state, or a VP province.
 

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No, only states and cities will be named
Correction, only the states and Victory Point cities are named (not all cities/urban areas are VPs so not all are named.)
 
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I'm not sure it resulted in more provinces. If you actually compare, what it did was reduce the size of the provinces themselves so the overall map is actually smaller as a result.

The smaller scale was the first thing I noticed
I thought HOI 4 had the same province amount of HOI 3?
I'm pretty sure they made some provinces bigger, in return made provinces in other places smaller. (think africa/east russia)


Correction, only the states and Victory Point cities are named (not all cities/urban areas are VPs so not all are named.)
how could I :D
 

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There look's to be less provinces overall. While I can't confirm this, if you compare the number of territories that make-up the maginot line, there are not as many as HoI3.

Considering how they effectively blacked-out half the map with super-low infrastructure in subsequent dlc, just goes to show that they wanted less in future designs.

I always build the infrastructure to 100 in every region I own. That way supply has less issues and I can get partisans wherever they pop-up (if my airforce doesn't destroy them before the reserves show!)

I will really miss the province names, but considering how the game is being pushed towards a "faster and easier" approach, there was just no need for those details. Just like division leaders and OOB. Unnecessary fluff for the big picture.
 
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I'm pretty sure they made some provinces bigger, in return made provinces in other places smaller. (think africa/east russia)

Exactly. Smaller scale as in same number of provinces, small sizes of the provinces. Like dimensions. So that the dimensions of the map are actually smaller.
 

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Podcat stated that the amount of provinces are roughly the same as in HoI3. 10% less in some areas and 10% more in some others.
Source
 
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Not a huge difference in number (maybe 10% less in some spots? Some added in places. It's not significant).
Podcat stated that the amount of provinces are roughly the same as in HoI3. 10% less in some areas and 10% more in some others.
That sounds like it's a little bit less than HoI3, but whatever, if it's in the grade under 50 difference I don't think it'll be of significant importance...
 

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Exactly. Smaller scale as in same number of provinces, small sizes of the provinces. Like dimensions. So that the dimensions of the map are actually smaller.

I'm probably one of the few people who would love slogging through small tiles. Big battles wouldn't be fought over every time as one would need to organize. It would be cool in such an occasion to set divisions to fight skirmish or delaying actions instead of pitched battles.

However everything is moving towards easier to use and I can't fault this. I will just dream of Victoria and HoI being combined into one glorious game where a single play through will take years. :)
 
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