Province name wrong

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Not really a bug as such, but I'm not sure where to highlight this. The North of England is slightly wrong.

The duchy, which contains the counties of Northumberland, Westmoreland and Durham is also called Northumberland. It's a wee bit confusing and also wrong. It should be Northumbria.

Is there a way of changing/modding the name at all?

 

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Well it's not 'wrong' for one thing. Northumbria is just a Latinization of Northumberland (c/f Anglia versus England, Scotia versus Scotland, Hispania versus Spain, etc). Northumbria could equally be used for the post-1100 county of that name as for the earldom.

 

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It certainly is wrong from a geographical viewpoint. Regardless of Latinizations or Anglicisation the two words have different meanings today. Pork and Pig mean different things to us, despite the fact that they both originate as the same noun for the same animal from two different languages. Northumberland refers to the county and Northumbria refers to the area of the ancient Kingdom emcompassing several counties.

However, looking in to Medieval history and titles, which isn't my strong point, it seems that it wasn't so clear cut back then. The titles of Earl of Northumbria fades out toward the beginning period of the game and Duke of Northumberland replaces it to some degree; boundaries also shift all over. So in this aspect the game isn't really wrong I suppose, it's just trying to fit the strict limitations of a game in to the fluctuating realities of History.

 

[Calgacus]

Northumberland is used for what you mean by Northumbria, and Northumbria for what you mean by Northumberland. The former is archaic but the latter is quite common (google book search "kingdom of Northumberland" and "earldom of Northumbria" if you don't believe me). I'll grant you though that usage leans in that direction though.

Northumberland shire didn't come into existence until reign of Henry I btw, late in the reign. It only had a small amount of the modern county in it however, with liberties taking up the rest.