In a couple of past games I've seen a Protestant Brandenburg and Kleves win the HRE election. I thought only Catholic monarchs could win that, did FTG change this somehow?
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Wasn´t it at one time EVERY christian ruler and even orthodox Ethiopia who could become Emperor when all others had vanished? ;-)
I think the current election rules are any christian ruler with capital inside the HRE and every catholic ruler outside of the HRE (except nations in America i think...)
Anyone whose capital is in the HRE is eligible, although it is admittedly unlikely for non-Christians to appear there.
The excluded continents are defined in geography.txt; in vanilla, only Europeans are eligible.
Also, monarchs can be defined as ineligible; for example, the vanilla Swiss Tagsatzung cannot be elected.
Thanks, just wanted to make sure it was WAD and that I hadn't messed something up. Old EU2 wiki and the religion readme files indicated that only Catholic countries could win (papacy = yes).
So rulers whose capital is not in the HRE cannot become Emperor? What about the AGCEEP event chain around SPA 285521 in which the english, spanish and french candidate can make their claim? Or do you mean any NON-christian IN the HRE but every european catholic/protestant IN and OUTSIDE the HRE?
Does that mean that Ethiopia can NEVER become Emperor - not even if all HRE and all european christian states are gone?
Is it only possible to ALWAYS have them eligible for vote - or would it be possible to have them eligible for vote, but only if no HRE state remains?
The emperor = no entry in the monarchs data of the Tagsatzung in the vanilla Switzerland file? I ask because I remember the "Anarchy" of Bohemia to become Emperor once in EU2 - and just now when looking at Anarchy in the AGCEEP BOH file I don´t see emperor = no there and the AGCEEP Tagsatzungen lack that enty too ..
Anyone in the HRE, and any Catholic in Europe.
I'm not sure I understand. Why would there be an emperor at all if there are no HRE states left?
Yeah, AGCEEP hasn't been entirely updated to use new features, even though some were created with it in mind.The emperor = no entry in the monarchs data of the Tagsatzung in the vanilla Switzerland file? I ask because I remember the "Anarchy" of Bohemia to become Emperor once in EU2 - and just now when looking at Anarchy in the AGCEEP BOH file I don´t see emperor = no there and the AGCEEP Tagsatzungen lack that enty too ..
O.K so Francis I CAN become Emperor when I next play France ^^
Because even if all HRE states are gone their provinces still belong to the HRE and grant the Emperor military access - so the HRE persists even if not a single state in the HRE survives. e.g. if Russia conquers all states of the HRE France still can become Emperor of a HRE.
Have to post that in the AGCEEP forum then.
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That makes no sense. Why would Russia (or any other non-HRE state) allow the French King (or any other Emperor) into their lands just because the former rulers allowed that? Rather the opposite; Russia have all reason to not want an "Emperor" (citation marks for their point of view) in the lands they themselves own and control. In all respects, the Russian Czar has thus become the de facto Emperor of the HRE (although that's a title he is unlikely to claim). Better then to either let the title die until some state rises again, or give it to the nation controlling the entire geographical area (in this case Russia).
The the whole game mechanic makes no sense - if an outside state owns a province of the HRE then he grants military access to the Emperor.
Why then should that be different if the whole HRE is owned by someone else and a third outsider is emperor? If ownership of an outsider would remove that then
either provinces should be removed from the HRE whenever an outside state owns a hre province.
Or it should stay as it is - just like when Denmark rules holstein, Netherland Luxemburg or England Hanover.
In all my games with AGCEEP FTG ( never happened in previous version ) is that once the HRE is ruled from outside the HRE , it never goes back into the states within the HRE ..............I usually have SPA ruling and sometimes catholic ENG.
I think this is a flaw, a change is required ( similar to when the PAP vanishes) that the outside nations relationship with states within the HRE is auto set to -200
I think this is a flaw, a change is required ( similar to when the PAP vanishes) that the outside nations relationship with states within the HRE is auto set to -200
I recall some pre-1.09 version of eu2, where the HRE was dynamic, and did shrink when outside powers conquered provinces inside it (typically the OE). It was made static for some reason, but I agree with you that a dynamic HRE would be preferable.
But since we don't have that, we'll have to live with the flaw you mention.
Or we try to modify the HRE with events ^^
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...mp-Austria&p=12542057&viewfull=1#post12542057
Something strange happened in one of my games. Russia went west, annexing Poland. They eventually ran afoul of an aggressive Austria, who beat them in a war and forced Russia to change to Counter-Reformed Catholic (!). This was a bad move for Austria: with Catholic religion, peaceful approach (compared to Austria's frequent annexations) and lots of diplomats, Russia became very popular in Europe and snatched the title of Holy Roman Emperor off the Habsburgs!
