Promote Cultural Unity

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There is any advantage to use this decision in provinces that have a culture that is in my main culture group?

For example - I am playing France.
1/ Do I gain anything if I remove the core for Normandy if I annexed them completely (there is no independent Normandy anywhere)?
2/ I used settlement policy in Brittany and all 4 provinces now have Cosmopolitan culture. Do I gain anything to remove the Brittany cores?

I mean, anything beside avoiding the remote possibility to be forced to release an independent nation at the end of a very bad war.

 

[tuareg109]

There is any advantage to use this decision in provinces that have a culture that is in my main culture group?

For example - I am playing France.
1/ Do I gain anything if I remove the core for Normandy if I annexed them completely (there is no independent Normandy anywhere)?
2/ I used settlement policy in Brittany and all 4 provinces now have Cosmopolitan culture. Do I gain anything to remove the Brittany cores?

I mean, anything beside avoiding the remote possibility to be forced to release an independent nation at the end of a very bad war.

You also can't get nationalist rebels if no nation (existing or not) has a core on that province.
In my opinion the decision is relatively useless. Just maintain a strong army, don't do anything stupid, and you're set.

 

[Boon63]

If you want to create vassals, you can control which provinces should not be given to your newly created vassal... Well, it's useless...

 

[sprites]

If you remove the cores , they can't appear again ... it should be useful for the IA , but th IA don't use it.

 

[Mods]

If you remove the cores , they can't appear again ... it should be useful for the IA , but th IA don't use it.

the intelligent artificialence?

 

[cacra]

The only reason I use it is if I think I may lose a war and i might get a demand to release a nation. But the IA doesn't do that often so yeah it is pretty pointless

 

[Nunn45]

I find its good to keep your nation Tidy and minimise provinces if you want to release a vassal
It may also be good in MP games to stop people trying to release nations from you if you lost a war or remove potential reconquest CBs.

 

[SomethingSharp]

If you want to create vassals, you can control which provinces should not be given to your newly created vassal... Well, it's useless...

It's incredibly useful for expanding in the HRE - say you get a conquest/incorporate vassal mission on a 2/3PM. Annex, remove core on the province you cored, release the rest as a vassal so you don't start eating large amounts of BB.

 

[diegosimeone]

Useless? I love it. It means my nation is growing

 

[Turtlezilla]

the intelligent artificialence?

It says he lives in France, so I assume he speaks French. Those silly French, always mixing up their acronyms.

 

[Conch]

It may also be good in MP games to stop people trying to release nations from you if you lost a war or remove potential reconquest CBs.

Well, problem with that strategy is, that it doesn't work - you can only remove cores of nations that don't exist anymore, so no removing of reconquest CBs possible.

 

[Pellaken]

I find I use this most often.

 

[Nunn45]

Well, problem with that strategy is, that it doesn't work - you can only remove cores of nations that don't exist anymore, so no removing of reconquest CBs possible.

Oh right, derp.

 

[Boon63]

It's incredibly useful for expanding in the HRE - say you get a conquest/incorporate vassal mission on a 2/3PM. Annex, remove core on the province you cored, release the rest as a vassal so you don't start eating large amounts of BB.

Oh yeah, never thought about that. The drawback is you need NF influence on those provinces you want to release...

 

[DanubianCossak]

You also can't get nationalist rebels if no nation (existing or not) has a core on that province.
In my opinion the decision is relatively useless. Just maintain a strong army, don't do anything stupid, and you're set.

You can get nationalist rebels anywhere regardless of cores if there is at least one country in game data base with primary culture same as the culture in province and it currently doesnt exist on map (so unless such a tag is blocked in another file, you can in theory get a country that only exists in 18th century even in 1399. under right circumstances, for example, you can get Greece, Catalunya etc). If not, you can still get patriot rebels (again regardless of cores) and if there is no country of same primary culture, then they will defect to the best alternative in culture group (if it exists).

 

[cywang86]

It would've been nice if a province would automatically become your core if there's 0 core except for yours that's in progress.

But yes, the only use that's not a waste of magistrate and time is the HRE trick. Especially when you own the entire France region.

 

[tuareg109]

You can get nationalist rebels anywhere regardless of cores if there is at least one country in game data base with primary culture same as the culture in province and it currently doesnt exist on map (so unless such a tag is blocked in another file, you can in theory get a country that only exists in 18th century even in 1399. under right circumstances, for example, you can get Greece, Catalunya etc). If not, you can still get patriot rebels (again regardless of cores) and if there is no country of same primary culture, then they will defect to the best alternative in culture group (if it exists).

So I was wrong, it's not relatively useless.
It's COMPLETELY useless.

 

[Mods]

So I was wrong, it's not relatively useless.
It's COMPLETELY useless.

for the player pretty much, although I had it be useful once playing as a sub saharan tribal nation (annexing vassal, removing cores on some provinces then vassalizing again)

 

[DanubianCossak]

So I was wrong, it's not relatively useless.
It's COMPLETELY useless.

Its not completely useless. Some countries, like France, have a bunch of "dormant" revolters that wont usually appear via nationalists etc, however, if you manage to beat France and get ~100 % war score, you can force it to release a number of smaller vassals, sometimes effectively cutting it in two, which, if you then proceed to fund nationalist rebels in the smaller half, can be as catastrophic as if you won a number of consecutive wars instead of just one. You can literally destroy a huge country with just 1 war by forcing it to release just the right revolters. In these cases, removing cores CAN and IS a great bonus and well worth the magistrate cost, IMO at least.

 

[jdrou]

That would be useful for the AI if it could use it. Pretty rare that would be a problem for a human-played country though (maybe in MP I suppose). I'd say the major use for a human is to prepare to release a vassal (so that you keep a province that would otherwise be released).