PROMISES ? LIES ?

[Zed68]

Ok...

The game is now more than one year old.

We were told things...
The game would get DLCs and free stuff... and that was no lie. Each DLC gave us free things alongside. That's excellent. I actually do not use a lot of what was in the DLC but I enjoy the night day cycle and the rain and thunderstorms.

BUT !!!

We were told that the game would be modder and builder friendly.

Is it the case ?

Modder friendly... I will say yes. Betas have been made partly according to the most used mods around, and modders have been kept up to date with what was to come so that the most used mods would not break the game when big changes were to come.

But builder friendly ???

We were promised a better asset editor FROM THE BEGINNING !!!!!

WE STILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE SAME CRAP.

THERE IS STILL NO PRECISION IN ANY WAY IN THAT CRAPPY THING !!!!

AND NOW IT CRASHES !!




You told us we would get better tools.

Y O U ... T O L D ... U S !!!!!!


I know I've already made some posts about this... and I KNOW THAT... YOU LIED !!!!





Now... options.


1 - Ignore it. (one year counting...)

2 - Find excuses

3 - Give us real building tools. (there is a thread about it...)

 

[Whiplash7x]

Calm down.

 

[Zed68]

Tell me why I should calm down.

For one year I've been making buildings for the game.

What did I get in return ?

Hey... nothing. Maybe that's because I don't ask for anything in return.

Oh well... maybe I ask for something too difficult... but maybe you do know what I ask for. Maybe you use one of the buildings I spent hours making.

Or maybe you use a building some other builder spent hours making ? Hey ???? Is that you ???
That guy using one of Quad rioters buildings, or boldlybuildings, or maybe it was from kliekie, maybe a tree that maison made or a bridge that shroom spent days on. Or mods from boformer or penguin or aj3d.


Maybe I should calm down... I just need a reason why.

 

[Whiplash7x]

Would you just take it easy man?

 

[Zed68]

What am I doing ? Planting landmines ?

What is you interest here ?

You paid the same amount of money I did.
You played the game. I played the game .
I spent hours building stuff for the game.

I am complaining about some of the tools that we are given for building stuff for the game being C R A P one year after the game being released.

I have a reason to complain.

What is you reason to tell me to take it easy ?

 

[Whiplash7x]

Maybe your grievances would be best expressed via postage.

 

[Zed68]

rephrasing..

What did you build for the game ?

 

[Whiplash7x]

You need to calm down Zed. Have you tried exercising in your spare time to relieve stress? If the game is stressing you out, maybe you should try something else out?

 

[brycepunk1]

I really miss having time to get so worked up about a video game. Strap in, junior. Life will get far more interesting soon.

 

[Alex24]

It's true that the asset editor requires a lot of improvments, but you are just overreacting here.

Instead watch this:

 

[vukica]

I can perfectly understand Zed's frustration, but screaming about it won't change anything.

 

[cHabu]

I fully understand Zed's frustration although i'm not a builder. It seems that critizing the developers via this forum is not done.
My critique was met with several red crosses, as if you are only allowed to post good things about the game. The fact is that the game is not 100% perfect.

The latest "mistake" (Note: using PG friendly words) is the terraform tool. It sucks and i think i have a right to post my frustration, just as Zed has (although i do not favour using caps )

I know the company needs to have funds and you have to pay for DLC, but for the players who can't affort every DLC it would be good to also get some free stuff you can actually use / work with from time to time. The players with very little or no money to spare are also part of the CS community IMHO.

I am calm, i don't screem but i do hope the developers take note... (I know they are here )

(... and i also appreciate the effort they put in the game.)

 

[grizzycz]

As much as I understand Zed's frustration, screaming won't change anything. There are plenty of things that needs fixing (some of them already since launch and many after AD DLC), but they are on ignore list from CO.

I understood that CO is taking different route and I had to accept it, although I don't agree. I have to take the game for what it is and try to enjoy it anyway. I showed my own dissapointment by simply not buying Snowfall and Zed should follow similar route. As much as I love Zed's stuff, simply don't make any new content, if you feel no support from CO. Ignore the game and move on.

 

[peteij]

Zed, thank you for all your work. Your name attached to a building virtually guarantees I will download it, as the quality is always so high. I guess the crashing asset editor in particular is hugely frustrating, but please don't lose faith. The game is so much better because of what you and others do - selfishly, it would be such a shame to lose your design skills.

For what it's worth, I really don't believe anyone at CO would deliberately mislead or break promises - they have always come across to me as making an honest effort to make and improve the game, even if I am not always enthusiastic about their choices. Perhaps it is simply the case that demand and expectation outstrips the pace at which they can respond and provide solutions?

 

[Wenla]

The fact is that the game is not 100% perfect.

I started to play computer games before PC was invented and so far never met 100% perfect game. Most propably I'll die before I see one...

 

[Grapplehoeker]

I started to play computer games before PC was invented and so far never met 100% perfect game. Most propably I'll die before I see one...

That would be the amazing '3d Monster Maze' which was made for the Sinclair ZX81 back in the early eighties. It was a 3d maze that you had to find your way out of before being caught and eaten by a ravenous T Rex and it was just 1k of RAM in size! I have always rated that simple game as 1 of the best of all time for it's fun factor and it's incredible coding. For it's time and for many decades later it is as close to 100% perfect as we'll ever see imo

@OP I have yet to successfully import a simple cube into the asset editor and I have spent many hours learning Blender and researching all tuts that I can find on the subject to no avail. I've even tried a live chat with one of the popular asset makers and have them walk me through each stage. But it failed every time lol... Sure I was frustrated as hell but then I just gave up and refused to spend any more energy on it and certainly no negative energy in ranting about it.
So I'll happily continue to model using 3dsmax, maya and zbrush and I'll happily continue to play Skylines and if I cannot combine the 2 passions of mine, then so be it. I'm just pragmatic about it I suppose. I could care less about the veracity of any statements issued. Lies, truth, promises? It's all a bit childish in my opinion and I mean that most sincerely, or do I?

 

[Azurespecter]

Hey Zed! (and others)

I understand the frustration you are feeling. As a top-notch content creator, you've been at the forefront of pushing for improved asset editors from the very beginning. I want to assure you that your feedback is never ignored, and we value you and all of our community creators.

I know you've got an active list of improvements that we can all agree would be fantastic. We haven't gotten around to many of them, but I think if we look at our progress over the last year, you're not really giving CO any credit for what they have done.

+Vehicle Editor
+Night Lighting
+Theme Editor
+Dozens of minor improvements
+Many bug fixes

The editor is not perfect, but it DOES work, and proof of that is apparent in the many high quality assets that you and many others have created.

Keep in mind that our community is demanding (in a good way) and everyone has their own wishes and wants. A lot of people wanted trams or weather or canals. Many are still begging for disasters. A large group of fans are really wanting more game challenges, or greater impact from decisions and services. Some want farms, some want RCI zoning depth, some want an industry overhaul. And everyone seems to claim the game is broken or unplayable without that one feature they want.

Personally, I want merging lanes on highways!

You are a creator. You want freedom to create masterpieces and works of art. We want to give you that freedom, but we ask that you be patient with us as we develop a game for the ENTIRE community.

Keep up the good work Zed, and you can always chat me anytime =)

 

[xagash]

Hey Zed! (and others)

...A large group of fans are really wanting more game challenges, or greater impact from decisions and services. Some want farms, some want RCI zoning depth, some want an industry overhaul...

Personally, I want merging lanes on highways!
...

I'm part of those fans and wishes xD
Not playing since After Dark but waiting with hope ^^

 

[muttonnoir]

Yep, everyone and their dog has their "must have" priority and the want it yesterday! You guys at CO have to "deliver" & somehow keep everyone happy- an impossible task! The game has come a long way since launch and the time and effort devoted to improving CS is appreciated. Sometimes it does seem that folks focus on the " negatives" and can often get carried away on flights of fancy with suggestions that at times are impractical and impossible with current technology. Keep up the great work

 

[Soduka]

What am I doing ? Planting landmines ?

What is you interest here ?

You paid the same amount of money I did.
You played the game. I played the game .
I spent hours building stuff for the game.

I am complaining about some of the tools that we are given for building stuff for the game being C R A P one year after the game being released.

I have a reason to complain.

What is you reason to tell me to take it easy ?

Who knows what satisfaction these people derive from kissing code monkey company butt. Happens across every genre and company, you always get them ready to defend. No idea.