Project Balance

[AnaxXiphos]

Okay, packaged up a bunch of possible faction icons, link here: Download

No examples, since there's a bunch and I'm lazy today. I had to make some adjustments to some of them in order to get them to fit nicely in a decision icon, and I also made a few new options. If you end up using one in PB, depending on which one, I might revisit to provide another coat of polish.

 

[Meneth]

Okay, packaged up a bunch of possible faction icons, link here: Download

No examples, since there's a bunch and I'm lazy today. I had to make some adjustments to some of them in order to get them to fit nicely in a decision icon, and I also made a few new options. If you end up using one in PB, depending on which one, I might revisit to provide another coat of polish.

Thanks

 

[Meneth]

Thanks

It's looking rather good in-game:

 

[AnaxXiphos]

Sweet... I'm so curious to see how that new faction stuff plays out. (On a side note, I might redraw that icon and at least offer a new version. The flag is a little blurry because it's the just the straight flag rotated. I wanted to redraw it today, but ended up baking seven pumpkin pies and making two pizzas instead!)

 

[Redwallzyl]

would it be possible for an integration of the Byzantine Themata System mod?

 

[Meneth]

Sweet... I'm so curious to see how that new faction stuff plays out. (On a side note, I might redraw that icon and at least offer a new version. The flag is a little blurry because it's the just the straight flag rotated. I wanted to redraw it today, but ended up baking seven pumpkin pies and making two pizzas instead!)

Hopefully it turns out well.

These are the potential actions I've set so far:

• Provide financial support to the liege. Only possible if he's in a defensive war
• Preserve the status quo. Does nothing
• Demand lower obligations. Lowers crown levies, feudal obligations, or applies a character modifier depending on what's available. Will usually only happen if crown levies are in place, but might happen if there's no crown laws active
• Demand revocation removed
• Demand internal peace removed

Any further suggestions would be appreciated. I'd like to have a couple more on the positive side, but I think I've got enough negative ones as the event screen can only fit 4 options, so status quo plus the 3 I've got covers that.

would it be possible for an integration of the Byzantine Themata System mod?

Link?

 

[AnaxXiphos]

Any further suggestions would be appreciated. I'd like to have a couple more on the positive side, but I think I've got enough negative ones as the event screen can only fit 4 options, so status quo plus the 3 I've got covers that.

Well, just shooting from the hip here, especially since I haven't gotten a chance to see the details of how the system works, but perhaps a loyalty pledge, making it less likely they'll work against you for a while. Or a pledge of additional troops, perhaps through a modifier to slightly (and temporarily) increase levy sizes. I'm not sure what else. It's hard to come up with stuff that isn't too extreme.

 

[Redwallzyl]

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?736914-Byzantine-Themata-System

 

[Stoycho]

em i doing something wrong? i'm having endless tournament evens .. for some years now ..

 

[darthfanta]

Just played the mod, the game's really slow and clunky compared to the vanilla version of the game. It's there any way I can speed things up?

 

[AndreiTLC]

i m eagerley waiting for the faction system !!


alas,Meneth please do something about the uber fatimids !!!They have under 10 decandence in every game i play,and blob like hell,every crusade being a failure !!

 

[Meneth]

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?736914-Byzantine-Themata-System

Not sure it'd be a good fit for PB.

em i doing something wrong? i'm having endless tournament evens .. for some years now ..

AFAIK the tournament system is pretty much the same as in vanilla currently.

Just played the mod, the game's really slow and clunky compared to the vanilla version of the game. It's there any way I can speed things up?

Are you using any mods beyond PB? PB alone should cause next to no slowdown.

i m eagerley waiting for the faction system !!

It's nearing a decently playable state now, actually.
Mainly I need to code some sort of response to the liege refusing a ultimatum and it should be ready for playtesting.
It won't be all that interesting to play with without further tweaking though. Currently the faction is probably too aggressive, mainly due to a lacking variety of things to do. Any suggestions are appreciated:

• Positive actions
• Neutral actions
• Negative actions

I've decided I might as well have more options than 4 available at any one time; I can just use branching events instead when there's too many choices to display in a single event.

 

[darthfanta]

not sure it'd be a good fit for pb.

Afaik the tournament system is pretty much the same as in vanilla currently.


Are you using any mods beyond pb? Pb alone should cause next to no slowdown.


It's nearing a decently playable state now, actually.
Mainly i need to code some sort of response to the liege refusing a ultimatum and it should be ready for playtesting.
It won't be all that interesting to play with without further tweaking though. Currently the faction is probably too aggressive, mainly due to a lacking variety of things to do. Any suggestions are appreciated:

• positive actions
• neutral actions
• negative actions

i've decided i might as well have more options than 4 available at any one time; i can just use branching events instead when there's too many choices to display in a single event.

pb + swmh + mbtogw.

 

[Meneth]

pb + swmh + mbtogw.

No idea what MBTOGW is.
SWMH does cause significant slowdown though, due to the number of provinces it adds.

 

[darthfanta]

No idea what MBTOGW is.
SWMH does cause significant slowdown though, due to the number of provinces it adds.

MBTOGW is the Jure Uxoris mod Damocles made. It's compatible. Yeah, it's probably SWMH then. It's fun to have, but it's way too slow. I guess I'll disable that.

 

[Meneth]

The faction system is ready for playtesting now. It can be downloaded here: https://github.com/Meneth/PB-git/archive/factions.zip
You can see the Git branch here: https://github.com/Meneth/PB-git/tree/factions

Note that it is likely not very well balanced right now. That's why I need people to test it.

A quick summary of what it does:
* All crown authority factions have been merged into a single autonomy faction
* This faction has a meeting every 3 to 7 years where they determine what action, if any to take
* All actions are put to vote. If the vote succeeds, their liege is sent an ultimatum (unless the action is positive)
* If the liege refuses, the faction leader can call for a vote for open revolt. If this succeeds the faction revolts based on what ultimatum was sent

Currently there are 5 actions they can take:
* Provide financial support when the liege is defending in a war
* Preserve status quo (do nothing)
* Demand lower obligations (crown levies/feudal obligations)
* Demand revocation removed
* Demand internal peace removed

Any suggestions for improvements are appreciated. More actions are especially needed.

 

[Ruskhan]

Just brainstorming here:


provide financial support if liege is fighting infidels (offensive war)

release prisoners (perhaps he got some "political" prisoners)

expel jews/heretics (characters)/infidels (characters)/holy orders

 

[Meneth]

Just brainstorming here:


provide financial support if liege is fighting infidels (offensive war)

release prisoners (perhaps he got some "political" prisoners)

expel jews/heretics (characters)/infidels (characters)/holy orders

The first two are definitely very good ideas. Not entirely sure about the 3rd.

 

[Ruskhan]

The first two are definitely very good ideas. Not entirely sure about the 3rd.

yeah, maybe it would fit better if there was a religious faction in game

 

[Ruskhan]

give liege a "compliment" <-- some kind of event/trait (permanent or temporary) that would rise liege prestige/piety/vassals opinion