Project Balance

[GimpyH]

Playing PB+SWMH

Is it wad that "Italian Pike Trainig Grounds" gives a bonus on light and heavy cavalry?
The building even has -10 Pikemen...

Playing PB+SWMH most of the Italian Retinues are and Heavy/Light Cavalry mix. I think the header just was not renamed.

The retinue is:

RETTYPE_CUL_ITA = 
{
	first_type = 4
	first_amount = 150

	second_type = 3
	second_amount = 100
	
	culture = italian
	culture = sicilian
	
	modifier = {
		knights_defensive = 0.6
	}
}

4 is heavy, 3 is light Cavalry.

 

[Gnostiko]

Try the beta branch.

First time using Github so bear with me....I'm seeing all the files, but how do I download them as a folder/zip?

 

[Meneth]

More King's/Emperor's Peace faction concepts. For reference, I can also substitute a different type of crown for Emperor's versus King's. (No download, since I'm still messing around with stuff.)

Those are lovely.
I'm considering overhauling the faction system though, merging all the crown authority factions into a single autonomy faction (generally opposed to all crown laws and demesne laws). If you've got anything fitting for that I'd love to see it. The 3rd icon there might work well for that matter.

Playing PB+SWMH

Is it wad that "Italian Pike Trainig Grounds" gives a bonus on light and heavy cavalry?
The building even has -10 Pikemen...

I found this in the files...imo can't be right

#Italian Pike formations
    ca_culture_italian_0 = {
        desc = ca_culture_italian_1_desc
        potential = {
            OR = {
                culture = italian
                culture = sicilian
                culture_group = italian_group
            }
        }
        trigger = { TECH_CASTLE_CONSTRUCTION = 0 }
        build_cost = 100
        build_time = 365
        light_cavalry = 20
        knights = 25
        pikemen = -10
        light_infantry = -30
        heavy_infantry = -10
        archers = -20
        horse_archers = -10
        light_cavalry_defensive = 0.05
        knights_defensive = 0.05
        retinuesize = 20
        tax_income = -0.1
        ai_creation_factor = 102
        
        extra_tech_building_start = 0.0
    }
    ca_culture_italian_1 = {
        desc = ca_culture_italian_1_desc
        potential = {
            OR = {
                culture = italian
                culture = sicilian
                culture_group = italian_group
            }
        }
        trigger = { TECH_CASTLE_CONSTRUCTION = 1 }
        upgrades_from = ca_culture_italian_0
        build_cost = 200
        build_time = 730
        light_cavalry = 20
        knights = 35
        pikemen = -10
        light_infantry = -30
        heavy_infantry = -10
        archers = -20
        horse_archers = -10
        light_cavalry_defensive = 0.05
        knights_defensive = 0.05
        retinuesize = 20
        tax_income = -0.15
        ai_creation_factor = 101
        
        extra_tech_building_start = 1.0
    }
    ca_culture_italian_2 = {
        desc = ca_culture_italian_1_desc
        potential = {
            FROM = { culture_group = ROOT }
            OR = {
                culture = italian
                culture = sicilian
                culture_group = italian_group
            }
        }
        trigger = { 
            TECH_CASTLE_CONSTRUCTION = 2
            FROM = { culture_group = ROOT }
        }
        upgrades_from = ca_culture_italian_1
        build_cost = 300
        build_time = 1095
        light_cavalry = 30
        knights = 40
        pikemen = -10
        light_infantry = -30
        heavy_infantry = -10
        archers = -20
        horse_archers = -10
        light_cavalry_defensive = 0.05
        knights_defensive = 0.05
        retinuesize = 20
        tax_income = -0.2
        ai_creation_factor = 100
        
        extra_tech_building_start = 1.0
    }
    ca_culture_italian_3 = {
        desc = ca_culture_italian_1_desc
        potential = {
            FROM = { culture_group = ROOT }
            OR = {
                culture = italian
                culture = sicilian
                culture_group = italian_group
            }
        }
        trigger = { 
            TECH_CASTLE_CONSTRUCTION = 3
            FROM = { culture_group = ROOT }
        }
        upgrades_from = ca_culture_italian_2
        build_cost = 400
        build_time = 2190
        light_cavalry = 30
        knights = 50
        pikemen = -10
        light_infantry = -30
        heavy_infantry = -10
        archers = -20
        horse_archers = -10
        light_cavalry_defensive = 0.05
        knights_defensive = 0.05
        retinuesize = 20
        tax_income = -0.25
        ai_creation_factor = 99
        
        extra_tech_building_start = 1.0
    }
    ca_culture_italian_4 = {
        desc = ca_culture_italian_1_desc
        potential = {
            FROM = { culture = ROOT }
            OR = {
                culture = italian
                culture = sicilian
                culture_group = italian_group
            }
        }
        trigger = { 
            TECH_CASTLE_CONSTRUCTION = 4
            FROM = { culture = ROOT }
        }
        upgrades_from = ca_culture_italian_3
        build_cost = 500
        build_time = 1825
        light_cavalry = 40
        knights = 55
        pikemen = -10
        light_infantry = -30
        heavy_infantry = -10
        archers = -20
        horse_archers = -10
        light_cavalry_defensive = 0.05
        knights_defensive = 0.05
        retinuesize = 20
        tax_income = -0.3
        ai_creation_factor = 98
        
        extra_tech_building_start = 1.0
    }
    ca_culture_italian_5 = {
        desc = ca_culture_italian_1_desc
        potential = {
            FROM = { culture = ROOT }
            OR = {
                culture = italian
                culture = sicilian
                culture_group = italian_group
            }
        }
        trigger = { 
            TECH_CASTLE_CONSTRUCTION = 6
            FROM = { culture = ROOT }
        }
        upgrades_from = ca_culture_italian_4
        build_cost = 600
        build_time = 2190
        light_cavalry = 40
        knights = 65
        pikemen = -10
        light_infantry = -30
        heavy_infantry = -10
        archers = -20
        horse_archers = -10
        light_cavalry_defensive = 0.05
        knights_defensive = 0.05
        retinuesize = 20
        tax_income = -0.35
        ai_creation_factor = 98
        
        extra_tech_building_start = 1.0
    }

Yeah, according to the SWMH team cavalry makes much more sense for the Italians.
I should probably rename the building though.

First time using Github so bear with me....I'm seeing all the files, but how do I download them as a folder/zip?

There's a "Download ZIP" button in the sidebar.

 

[AnaxXiphos]

I'm considering overhauling the faction system though, merging all the crown authority factions into a single autonomy faction (generally opposed to all crown laws and demesne laws). If you've got anything fitting for that I'd love to see it. The 3rd icon there might work well for that matter.

Not sure how I feel about factions against demesne law. But I'm certainly not against simplifying the crown authority factions. Whatever you decide to do, you're still welcome to use whatever icon works for the faction. Depending on how it works out, if one of them doesn't end up being suitable, then I'm sure I'll probably just make some more.

 

[Meneth]

Not sure how I feel about factions against demesne law. But I'm certainly not against simplifying the crown authority factions. Whatever you decide to do, you're still welcome to use whatever icon works for the faction. Depending on how it works out, if one of them doesn't end up being suitable, then I'm sure I'll probably just make some more.

Essentially they'll have a bunch of possible actions, with "demand lower obligations" being one of them. That'll lower crown levies if not 0, then Feudal obligations if not minimal, then if that's not the case either, apply a 10 year modifier decreasing obligations.

The other action I've coded is giving the liege monetary support when defending against invaders. Though that's rather unlikely to happen unless you manage to keep your vassals rather happy.

 

[cybrxkhan]

Those are lovely.
I'm considering overhauling the faction system though, merging all the crown authority factions into a single autonomy faction (generally opposed to all crown laws and demesne laws). If you've got anything fitting for that I'd love to see it. The 3rd icon there might work well for that matter.

That sounds interesting, actually... not sure whether I like or don't like it, but it sounds promising.

 

[Meneth]

That sounds interesting, actually... not sure whether I like or don't like it, but it sounds promising.

For now it's just an idea I'm playing around with, but it might eventually go live. See the factions branch. "Groundwork" and up is work on the factions.

 

[AnaxXiphos]

Essentially they'll have a bunch of possible actions, with "demand lower obligations" being one of them. That'll lower crown levies if not 0, then Feudal obligations if not minimal, then if that's not the case either, apply a 10 year modifier decreasing obligations.

The other action I've coded is giving the liege monetary support when defending against invaders. Though that's rather unlikely to happen unless you manage to keep your vassals rather happy.

Actually, that sounds pretty good. As long as they aren't messing with demesne law outside of obligations, I'm cool with it. I especially like the idea that they can also do some stuff beyond just messing with your laws. I'll have to take a peek at the factions branch when I get a chance.

 

[Ruskhan]

Is there any chance we get a new type of faction that will make it more fun to play as a vassal?

 

[Gnostiko]

There's a "Download ZIP" button in the sidebar.

Thanks. I'm pleased to report the beta has done away with the steppe Serbia!

 

[cybrxkhan]

Thanks. I'm pleased to report the beta has done away with the steppe Serbia!

And I'm glad it wasn't VIET's fault, or else I would've had a real headache.

 

[Gnostiko]

And I'm glad it wasn't VIET's fault, or else I would've had a real headache.

High-fives all-around!

....now get the latest VIET compatibility patch out so I can get a new game started!

 

[AndreiTLC]

is the mod stable enough to be played?Or should i wait a little longer?

 

[Imperial Knight]

is the mod stable enough to be played?Or should i wait a little longer?

Everyone can still play it with the prepatched version without having to fight Steam (FYI).

Just right click on crusader kings II in your steam library, go to properties, BETAs, click the dropdown box and select 1.111 - Old version 1.111. Then launch your game as you usually do, select the mods you played before the patch and viola.

Doing it this way you avoid the compatibility problems that go hand in hand with Steam's stubborn auto-patch system and crusader kings II mods breaking down with every official patch release.

Avoid the crossfire. If you use a box then download the 1.111 patch from somewhere, reinstall the vanilla game and these fine mods, finally slap the 1.111 patch on, launch the game, click all the mods you want in a blender and press pure.

Hope the Steam advice helps someone else as much as it helped me today. Pass the word around amongst yourselves. I've done my good deed for the day! *Salutes* *Turns about and walks away vanishing into the surrounding aether*

 

[Meneth]

Is there any chance we get a new type of faction that will make it more fun to play as a vassal?

If I implement that Autonomy faction idea, that should make things a bit more interesting as a vassal as you'll get a larger variety of power over your liege than just "comply with me or I'll declare war!".

is the mod stable enough to be played?Or should i wait a little longer?

It should be quite stable, especially if you download the beta version.

Everyone can still play it with the prepatched version without having to fight Steam (FYI).

Just right click on crusader kings II in your steam library, go to properties, BETAs, click the dropdown box and select 1.111 - Old version 1.111. Then launch your game as you usually do, select the mods you played before the patch and viola.

Doing it this way you avoid the compatibility problems that go hand in hand with Steam's stubborn auto-patch system and crusader kings II mods breaking down with every official patch release.

Avoid the crossfire. If you use a box then download the 1.111 patch from somewhere, reinstall the vanilla game and these fine mods, finally slap the 1.111 patch on, launch the game, click all the mods you want in a blender and press pure.

Hope the Steam advice helps someone else as much as it helped me today. Pass the word around amongst yourselves. I've done my good deed for the day! *Salutes* *Turns about and walks away vanishing into the surrounding aether*

If people want to downgrade to 1.111, here's the last version of PB for 1.111: http://www.mediafire.com/download/ti5b979s7khy25x/Project Balance v3.2.29.7z

 

[Ruskhan]

If I implement that Autonomy faction idea, that should make things a bit more interesting as a vassal as you'll get a larger variety of power over your liege than just "comply with me or I'll declare war!".

sound interesting and realistic,

also just wondering how huge is the hordes?

Ilkhanate-100K
GoldeHorde-50K
Seljuk-50
Timurid-?

Correct?

 

[Meneth]

sound interesting and realistic,

also just wondering how huge is the hordes?

Ilkhanate-100K
GoldeHorde-50K
Seljuk-50
Timurid-?

Correct?

Same as in vanilla.

 

[coleman7777]

Think I might have found bug, whenever a vassal refuses to let his liege revoke his title a war is supposed to start and vice versa. For me, the two parties are immune to hostile action but the war never fires. Same problem with faction wars. I am using PB+SWMH

 

[Nagy Andras I.]

This is sooo annoying! Using 1.111, Project Balance and SWMH- everything worked excellently. Then Sons of Abraham (which sounded like a good idea actually), the 2.01 patch- and voila! I even can't get a game running anymore! I choose a character with the Old Gods, want to start- and the game crushes down immediately. No chance to get it running. No other Mods in use (beside the SWMH & PB compatibility mod). Anyone knows a solution/has had the same issue???

 

[zach6844]

This is sooo annoying! Using 1.111, Project Balance and SWMH- everything worked excellently. Then Sons of Abraham (which sounded like a good idea actually), the 2.01 patch- and voila! I even can't get a game running anymore! I choose a character with the Old Gods, want to start- and the game crushes down immediately. No chance to get it running. No other Mods in use (beside the SWMH & PB compatibility mod). Anyone knows a solution/has had the same issue???

if on steam, go to CK 2, right click properties, go to betas, and click 1.111 old version. it will basically rollback to 1.111 pre-SOA

also make sure the mods are updated to 2.01 as well, if not, then just roll the game back. and if they are up to date, make sure you have them installed.