Project Balance

[Cetan]

So enatic succession is also in the normal mod? I assumed that it would only be in the gender equality module, which IMHO would be more appropriate. I guess something else I'll edit out then.
I'm sorry that I just noticed this, but I had some issues with my Internet connection yesterday.

I also believe that it would be more reasonable for Enatic to be available only in gender quality module...

It's not something you're forced to use; it's just like any of the other succession laws that are present. Use 'em if you want, don't if you don't. The AI won't be touching it... so what's the issue?

(Also, how is saying "Only Females Can Inherit Titles" "gender equality"? )

 

[Meneth]

It's not something you're forced to use; it's just like any of the other succession laws that are present. Use 'em if you want, don't if you don't. The AI won't be touching it... so what's the issue?

Plus you won't even see them unless you scroll down in the Gender Laws section.

 

[CommiePancakes]

Paradox introduced the bug in 1.102.
I'll probably add an event to sort it out.

Until then, is there any kind of console command or anything to just set the law to something? I have the same issue plus that everything is locked in The King's Peace and Investure too.

 

[Meneth]

Until then, is there any kind of console command or anything to just set the law to something? I have the same issue plus that everything is locked in The King's Peace and Investure too.

The closest would be allow_laws, which will let you implement the laws normally. They still have to be voted for though.

 

[Ruwaard]

Plus you won't even see them unless you scroll down in the Gender Laws section.

Just like Greek Strategos, I just voiced my opinion; IMO that's what a forum is for.

It's not something you're forced to use; it's just like any of the other succession laws that are present. Use 'em if you want, don't if you don't. The AI won't be touching it... so what's the issue?

(Also, how is saying "Only Females Can Inherit Titles" "gender equality"? )

Not being forced to use is a rather IMHO ambiguous argument, which might be countered with immersion breaking; still it comes down to what one is looking for, which, if this is different, might be less easy than one thinks. In a sense it gave me a déjà vu with the whole Aztec discussion, you don't have to buy it...

You got me there. Still adding the whole range of gender law options would be more gender equal. Also I'm not against the option, but IMHO it is something for a module and not the basic mod. Like I wrote previously, it is (at least for me) immersion breaking for the standard mod; it is something I like to be able to choose for or not.

 

[Meneth]

Just like Greek Strategos, I just voiced my opinion; IMO that's what a forum is for.

And I voiced the argument that you'll never even know it's there, which is also what a forum is for

 

[Ruwaard]

And I voiced the argument that you'll never even know it's there, which is also what a forum is for

That would only have been true, if you wouldn't have put it in a changelog.

 

[Ruwaard]

The goal of Project Balance is to improve the play experience not by adding a large amount of new features, but by making small changes to make the game more interesting and historically plausible.
With Project Balance installed you'll have things that could not have possibly happened historically happen much less often, but it will still feel much like the same.

Still I could use a passage out your own mission statement for your mod to make my opinion a bit clearer. IMHO having enatic succession in the standard version of the mod, is (again) IMHO a bit conflicting with historically plausible part; and thus IMHO would be better as a module.

I don't think I can be any clearer about this.

 

[Meneth]

Still I could use a passage out your own mission statement for your mod to make my opinion a bit clearer. IMHO having enatic succession in the standard version of the mod, is (again) IMHO a bit conflicting with historically plausible part; and thus IMHO would be better as a module.

I don't think I can be any clearer about this.

The AI will never use it.

The player will never see it unless he goes out of his way.

This stops me from breaking the Gender Equality module every other time I update succession laws.

 

[CommiePancakes]

The closest would be allow_laws, which will let you implement the laws normally. They still have to be voted for though.

I tried that, but it seemed like everything was still locked. Is there any way to save game edit or something?

Sorry for bothering you so much, but I love Project Balance and I don't wanna give up on the game i have running. I just fended of three viking invasions, I don't want to have to resign for something as silly as a crown law bug!

 

[Meneth]

I tried that, but it seemed like everything was still locked. Is there any way to save game edit or something?

Sorry for bothering you so much, but I love Project Balance and I don't wanna give up on the game i have running. I just fended of three viking invasions, I don't want to have to resign for something as silly as a crown law bug!

You could probably edit it into the save.

 

[Ruwaard]

The AI will never use it.

The player will never see it unless he goes out of his way.

This stops me from breaking the Gender Equality module every other time I update succession laws.

Firstly it is your mod, I just gave my opinion and gave my arguments for that opinion. I guess I'll just edit* this out then; since this is heading the same direction as the best color for the HRE discussion.

(*= a no enatic module, another option, but also extra work, is not necessarily for me; I can personalize it myself to better suit my idea of immersion)

 

[Frozensky]

best color for the HRE

Green with pink polka dots. Don't really see how anyone could dispute it in terms of aesthetics or historical accuracy.

I will say on a slightly more serious note that if the HRE forms without East Francia being part of it, they both end up the same color and it can be a little confusing, so I wouldn't mind East Francia being made a couple shades lighter or darker.

 

[Meneth]

Green with pink polka dots. Don't really see how anyone could dispute it in terms of aesthetics or historical accuracy.

Definitely.

I will say on a slightly more serious note that if the HRE forms without East Francia being part of it, they both end up the same color and it can be a little confusing, so I wouldn't mind East Francia being made a couple shades lighter or darker.

I think I'll probably just require that either East Francia doesn't exist, or is held by the guy forming the HRE.

 

[unmerged(468192)]

Using pb/swmh whenever I make the Kingdom of Wales I have no crown laws. Any help with this?

 

[Meneth]

Using pb/swmh whenever I make the Kingdom of Wales I have no crown laws. Any help with this?

It's a bug Paradox introduced in 1.102. I'll be making an event to assign crown laws sometime today. The patch will be released before I go to sleep today.

 

[Frozensky]

Definitely.


I think I'll probably just require that either East Francia doesn't exist, or is held by the guy forming the HRE.

Makes sense. When I zoomed out on the map after the major event announcing the HRE's formation, I was really impressed with the borders for about ten seconds until I realized that it was actually East Francia and the HRE enclaved all over each other. 867 is such a hilarious mess.

 

[Ruwaard]

It's a bug Paradox introduced in 1.102. I'll be making an event to assign crown laws sometime today. The patch will be released before I go to sleep today.

Thanks for reporting this bug. Another one is the issue with historic bastards renaming their dynasty (even though that's already different from their parent), but that also is reported.

I guess there is an advantage in having golden HRE and not a grey one.

 

[SirRobin]

Probably silly question but wanted to double check while at work before I get home. Planning PB+SWMH+MissCOA+CulDifCit+CPR+ARKO tonight.

For the PB part do I just check PB+SWMH or do I need to check PB and PB+SWMH? Also, do I still need to delete the religion folder from ARKO to use it with PB?

 

[Meneth]

Probably silly question but wanted to double check while at work before I get home. Planning PB+SWMH+MissCOA+CulDifCit+CPR+ARKO tonight.

For the PB part do I just check PB+SWMH or do I need to check PB and PB+SWMH? Also, do I still need to delete the religion folder from ARKO to use it with PB?

PB, PB+SWMH, and SWMH.
Delete the religion folder of ARKO.
Missing CoAs will work with anything.
As long as you use the +compatible version of CulDifCit it should work.
CPR will work with all the rest.

So you should be good to go once you've deleted that religion folder.