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Shouldn't the various Khazar characters in 867 be Jewish? I don't see why only the Ethiopian Jews get the religion, given that it's in this mod; it's historical for the Khazars as well.
Essentially, mechanically Tengri fits the Khazars better than Jewish. The kingdom of Semien did not expand, but Khazaria did. As such they can't really follow the same religion and still follow the same mechanics.
 

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Any news on a possible update today, or will you be holding out until the next patch on Tuesday?

Essentially, mechanically Tengri fits the Khazars better than Jewish. The kingdom of Semien did not expand, but Khazaria did. As such they can't really follow the same religion and still follow the same mechanics.

I do remember there was a super-Semien in one of your observe games a while back, but yes, this is an important point nevertheless.
 

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Project Balance 3.2.19 released

Should be compatible with any saves from 3.2.X. Some changes might only apply to new campaigns.
If you encounter any issues or have any feedback, please report it in this thread.

Download: .7z archive version
  • Fixed some minor adjacency issues
  • The Warrior Cult building now gives 2 galleys
  • Reduced the amount of gold protected from raids by fort level by 25%
  • The Ilkhanate spawns further south, attacking the kingdom of Persia rather than Khiva. This should lead to them expanding in the correct direction more often
  • Mongol event forces now take 10% of normal attrition rather than no attrition
  • Added an "is war possible?" decision for republics' coastal county conquest CB
  • Expanded on the description for the "is war possible?" decision for Pagan subjugation
  • Fixed AI emperors being able to push the claims of people who they're not either married to or close relatives of
  • Removed the 50% increase to all building costs (added in vanilla 1.10)
  • Fixed some issues with navigable rivers, including the Danube being navigable by anyone
  • Fixed an issue where imprisonment events would sometimes fire when they shouldn't
  • There is now a low chance of inheriting genetic traits from one's grandparents upon birth. For most genetic traits you get a 5% chance of inheritance per grandparent that has it
  • Fixed the Steppe buildings not having maintenance costs nor giving retinue cap
  • Fixed the Pope being able to excommunicate you for refusing Papal Investiture after you've appointed an anti-pope or after his own death
  • The Mongols can now convert to Reformed Tengri if they manage to get ahold of provinces with the religion
  • If the leaders of the Golden Horde and the Ilkhanate are the same religion, Timur will be the same religion as them rather than Shia
  • Commented out the event that clears tournaments that go on for long, as it should no longer be needed
  • Fixed liberation revolts sometimes leading to kingdoms with no crown authority law
  • Fixed some issues caused by the Shia Caliphate being kingdom level
  • Made the AI more likely to pick the stat improvement ambitions
  • (867 start) The Seljuks no longer start so ridiculously far north, so they're far less likely to expand into the Steppe
  • (PB+SWMH) Strengthened the initial position of the Christian Iberians
  • (PB+SWMH) If Aragon hasn't been expanded when Castille's dejure area is expanded to Murcia, expansion is applied, giving Aragon Valencia and Mallorca dejure
 

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Oh goody. I must have spoken too soon. :D
 

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African nations are gone or unplayable in the 867 start date.... is that something new?
Essentially, it was better to leave them randomly generated than to make up rulers and spend time researching borders (or applying 1066 borders).
It has the nice side-effect of slowing down West African unification.
 

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What do you mean? Has it been made less likely than in vanilla?
The imprisonment events are quite different from vanilla.
At the start of a siege everyone in the province gets the chance to hide, which also costs a small amount of money. They can choose to stay in the holding, hide their family, or hide both themselves and their family.
Only characters that haven't hidden can be captured.
If the attacker is from a different religious group, it is a lot more likely that the defender will hide. So as a result people will usually hide when you raid their holdings.
 

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This is still happening.
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I actually mentioned it yesterday haha. Maybe the day before.

Edit:
Seems the Tulunids don't stark with a king title in the latest version. Also would you consider changing their culture to Turkish? Since Ahmad would only gain the Governorship in 868 so there is no reason they should be Egyptian.
 

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The imprisonment events are quite different from vanilla.
At the start of a siege everyone in the province gets the chance to hide, which also costs a small amount of money. They can choose to stay in the holding, hide their family, or hide both themselves and their family.
Only characters that haven't hidden can be captured.
If the attacker is from a different religious group, it is a lot more likely that the defender will hide. So as a result people will usually hide when you raid their holdings.

Is it possible for you to tune it a little more??? Cause in a very long time haven't seen anyone hidden...maybe once in over 60 sieges...
EDIT:I'm talking about Orthodox vs Catholics wars mostly...
 

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Is it still possible to take prisoners during pagan raids? I haven't had the event go off once, taking christian/muslim concubines as pagans adds a lot of flavor.
I have, on rare occasions, captured prisoners in recent PB. I think the only times I have is when I have started assaulting within a day or two of beginning the siege. I presume a MTTH is involved.
 

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The imprisonment events are quite different from vanilla.
At the start of a siege everyone in the province gets the chance to hide, which also costs a small amount of money. They can choose to stay in the holding, hide their family, or hide both themselves and their family.
Only characters that haven't hidden can be captured.
If the attacker is from a different religious group, it is a lot more likely that the defender will hide. So as a result people will usually hide when you raid their holdings.

Can you only take family members hostage or also courtiers?
 

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You can take courtiers too. You can also kill everyone at court, if you're so inclined. For everyone having problems with this, if you want the event to pop, lead your army yourself, or you don't get to pick afaik.

Meneth: I don't know if you have an opinion on this already, but I think Mongol balance needs work. In my Persia game, when the Ilkhanate attacked me, they got 100% warscore for Khiva and peaced automatically before I could even gather a stack. I doubt it would have mattered though, as they had 130,000 troops. I held all of Khiva, Persia, Mesopotamia, Armenia, al-Jazira and Arabia, and could not muster more than 100,000 including hiring every mercenary available.