Project Balance

[Meneth]

thanks ill try that i dont think its my pc though i have 24 gig ram and 4gig i5 and a gtx680 so it might just be a problem with one of there mods, thanks for the help

Yeah, in that case you should be able to run it without problems.
Make sure you've got things properly set up when it comes to the mods themselves. Make sure you've got the latest versions of them all, and have these enabled:

• PB
• PB+SWMH
• SWMH
• ARKO (with the religion folder deleted)
• VIET Events

Out of curiosity, has anyone gotten a reward from the convert province ambition event other than +1 learning? I had a cluster of conversions and my character wound up with +4 learning. Given the 25% probability, the odds are 1 in 256 for it to happen randomly. I just don't tend to pay too much attention to that reward.

One interesting thing about raids. It looks like the Center of Trade buildings greatly increase the cash you get from sacking the city. I raided Brugge and Gent and sacked them down (no levies due to a war means a thin candy shell for tasty gold!). For the former, I got over 100 gold for sacking the city. For the latter, I got around 25. The base tax is 21.2 versus 12.4, so there's a non-linear scaling there. I'm not sure it's really a bug (or that anything can be done about it). It definitely means that I'm targeting Centers of Trade going forward.

I think I've mostly gotten extra piety from the event. Haven't gotten any traits so far, but I haven't used the ambition all that many times either.
A portion of the building cost gets added to the loot value. Centers of Trade cost a ton of money (level 1 is 750g), so they add a lot to the loot value.

 

[chemical_art]

*continuing to muck up the game by altering settings*

This is more of a modders question, but also some feedback as well.

I'm investigating having on hard difficulties increasing levy sizes for both player and AI. Ultimately balancing it so offense isn't easier, but more costly to maintain and reducing relative power of retinues and mercenaries which players can abuse. So for example on VH I have %100 levy size, garrison size and supply limit. Aside from tweaking retuning technology to reduce the retinues, is there anything else inherently broken from my changes so far? I'm trying to gauge the immediate ripples of my actions...

 

[Jamey]

I think I've mostly gotten extra piety from the event. Haven't gotten any traits so far, but I haven't used the ambition all that many times either.
A portion of the building cost gets added to the loot value. Centers of Trade cost a ton of money (level 1 is 750g), so they add a lot to the loot value.

At the moment, the convert county ambition is the best one available, so every time I convert something, I select it again. I'm up to +5 learning for 5 conversions (converting Old Norse into Norse is quicker that converting Catholics, but I'm also getting lucky).

The building cost added in makes sense. It's not a bug at all, then, but a good way to make money.

I've been spending a lot of time raiding for the last few decades. I'm starting to get a decent number of Centers of Trade. The tech boost is nice. Denmark is a good place for cities.

 

[lord_hur]

Great mod, but one thing bothers me : all patrician families keep getting extinct because they marry matrilineally very, very often... Oh yes, and centers of trade are way too powerful imho, especially the technology bonuses.

 

[Meneth]

Great mod, but one thing bothers me : all patrician families keep getting extinct because they marry matrilineally very, very often... Oh yes, and centers of trade are way too powerful imho, especially the technology bonuses.

Nothing I can do about marriage logic I'm afraid.
Centers of trade are meant to be powerful; they're supposed to be the main source of new tech.

 

[clblabin]

I'll consider it. Unlikely it'll make it into the next patch though.

The feast should start between October and December as long as you're not at war and not in prison.

I can confirm that the same thing happened to me as happened to Sseth. I chose the feast decision early in the year, but between then and October, I got pulled into a war, so I knew it wouldn't happen, but after the peace the events never resumed and the decision didn't reappear, even after decades.

Also, I was playing as the Duke of Daupine when another HRE duke started a war to install me as emperor. After we won, the HRE was no longer an elective monarchy, but A-C Primogeniture, as my duchy had been before. In my current game, the Duke of Provence won the HRE in a rebellion, and now the empire is under A-C Gavelkind. I'm not sure if that's WAD or not, or known or not, but it seems strange to see the HRE not be elective, so I thought I'd report it.

Just returning to CKII after about a year without playing it, and enjoying the mod very much.

 

[unmerged(346462)]

Yeah, in that case you should be able to run it without problems.
Make sure you've got things properly set up when it comes to the mods themselves. Make sure you've got the latest versions of them all, and have these enabled:

• PB
• PB+SWMH
• SWMH
• ARKO (with the religion folder deleted)
• VIET Events

thanks a lot mate it appears to be running fine now i didn't have the religion folder deleted seems to have made all the difference .

 

[Meneth]

I can confirm that the same thing happened to me as happened to Sseth. I chose the feast decision early in the year, but between then and October, I got pulled into a war, so I knew it wouldn't happen, but after the peace the events never resumed and the decision didn't reappear, even after decades.

Are you by any chance using other mods than PB? It's possible one of them overrides the feast code, making the event not fire.

Also, I was playing as the Duke of Daupine when another HRE duke started a war to install me as emperor. After we won, the HRE was no longer an elective monarchy, but A-C Primogeniture, as my duchy had been before. In my current game, the Duke of Provence won the HRE in a rebellion, and now the empire is under A-C Gavelkind. I'm not sure if that's WAD or not, or known or not, but it seems strange to see the HRE not be elective, so I thought I'd report it.

That shouldn't be happening, but I have no idea what could cause it either. Sounds like it might be a vanilla bug.

thanks a lot mate it appears to be running fine now i didn't have the religion folder deleted seems to have made all the difference .

No problem.

 

[lord_hur]

Nothing I can do about marriage logic I'm afraid.

Bleh my bad, saw a PB marriage file, but it's not about that at all.

 

[Frozensky]

I wonder if that Shia Caliphate fix you put on the beta might address a weird message that occurs. I didn't bother reporting it because it didn't bother me once I figured it out, but when the Fatimid ruler held the Caliph title, any duke-level ruler in his dynasty that died would trigger the "death of religious head" message and refer to the former duke as "Caliph" even though he wasn't the one holding the actual title. Not a big deal.

In other news, my buildings-file-poking has resulted in me rebalancing the cultural buildings for my own use. Mostly with the idea of making them more appealing to build, but while I was at it I made all the buildings provide uniform amounts of troops based on maintenance. I'm willing to share them if you want to have a look or use them to any degree, but I should probably make sure they work and don't break anything first.

 

[fairleystuff]

Taking the last county holding of the Hashshahin gave the event relating to their disbanding, but the title was not destroyed. The headmaster has no landed titles and no vassals, and became one of my vassals. The group can't be hired to fight, but he still doesn't like me, so I can't change any crown laws.

 

[Raeltherey]

hey im sorry if someones ask this before but is it a glitch that i cant declare war on anyone or am i just stupid? like i played as a zarosdrian (The persian hoes) and i couldnt declare war on the Sunni hoes.... i though it was just u needed some other sht to declare war but the same with France i tried to get a claimant to push the claim (him having land = more land for me ) but it wont let me delcare war...i though some sht was going on so i said fck that and left... then i tried Spain and i couldnt delcare war on leon as castile but i had a claim... is it a glitch or my stupidity?

 

[Meneth]

In other news, my buildings-file-poking has resulted in me rebalancing the cultural buildings for my own use. Mostly with the idea of making them more appealing to build, but while I was at it I made all the buildings provide uniform amounts of troops based on maintenance. I'm willing to share them if you want to have a look or use them to any degree, but I should probably make sure they work and don't break anything first.

It would probably make sense to make the cultural buildings a bit more powerful to make the cultures more unique. Haven't had the time to rebalance them yet though.

Taking the last county holding of the Hashshahin gave the event relating to their disbanding, but the title was not destroyed. The headmaster has no landed titles and no vassals, and became one of my vassals. The group can't be hired to fight, but he still doesn't like me, so I can't change any crown laws.

Vanilla issue; report it to Paradox.

hey im sorry if someones ask this before but is it a glitch that i cant declare war on anyone or am i just stupid? like i played as a zarosdrian (The persian hoes) and i couldnt declare war on the Sunni hoes.... i though it was just u needed some other sht to declare war but the same with France i tried to get a claimant to push the claim (him having land = more land for me ) but it wont let me delcare war...i though some sht was going on so i said fck that and left... then i tried Spain and i couldnt delcare war on leon as castile but i had a claim... is it a glitch or my stupidity?

Make sure you meet the "is war possible?" decisions; if you're allied to the target you need to meet additional conditions.

 

[fairleystuff]

I must be being dense here, but I can't find for the life of me what determines the CoAs for Zoroastrian states. I'd like them to use the normal set.

 

[Meneth]

I must be being dense here, but I can't find for the life of me what determines the CoAs for Zoroastrian states. I'd like them to use the normal set.

If you don't want them to use random CoAs, open the zoroastrian.txt file and set "has_coa_on_barony_only = no" to yes.

 

[fairleystuff]

That did it, thanks. I love the e_persia CoA, but all the duchies with crosses are pretty goofy. Is there a way to force a specific title to use a coat of arms if it's held by a specific religion?

 

[Meneth]

That did it, thanks. I love the e_persia CoA, but all the duchies with crosses are pretty goofy. Is there a way to force a specific title to use a coat of arms if it's held by a specific religion?

Hmmf. I'll see what I can do, if anything.

 

[Raeltherey]

Make sure you meet the "is war possible?" decisions; if you're allied to the target you need to meet additional conditions.

the is war possible decision is not possible and the problem is not only with allies its with everyone

 

[Meneth]

the is war possible decision is not possible and the problem is not only with allies its with everyone

You mean the decision isn't showing up? In that case you haven't installed PB correctly, or haven't enabled it correctly.

 

[birdboy2000]

Shouldn't the various Khazar characters in 867 be Jewish? I don't see why only the Ethiopian Jews get the religion, given that it's in this mod; it's historical for the Khazars as well.