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I noticed that too. Hungary only has a crescent of mountainous border territories in my game.

Maybe give Hungary a 20 year peace treaty with the Pechengs until someone comes up with a better fix?
 

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It's the same issue Vanilla has with Croatia.

Perhaps the solution is a vassalized mercenary company or something?
 

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That would be awesome on so many levels.

What are merc companies technically, anyway? Theocracies or republics? I kind of want to play as one, but I can't even figure out how to give them land (which is probably a good thing).
 

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In my game Hungary has its de jure vassals. Seems to be doing fine.
 

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In my game Hungary has its de jure vassals. Seems to be doing fine.

Let me tell you a tale of the House of Poth.

The House of Poth ruled the county of Skezefehervar, chosen explicitly for its ridiculous name, and its history. You see, Skezefehervar was historically a royal residence, and one of the most important cities in all Hungary. And Count Otto (I think) of Poth saw the greatness that was Skezefehervar, and set himself the goal of returning the capital of Hungary to the city.

Under Otto's rule, Skezefehervar expanded greatly, gaining the counties of Feher and Vas, changing the succession in Pecs to Elective and becoming the elected heir to the Duchess before stabbing her. He then quickly died, and was replaced by his son, under which the Duchy of Pecs grew to become the largest duchy in all Hungary. It covered the duchies of Temes and Pest, as well as the county of Budapest. Sadly, during this golden age of Pecs, the King of Bohemia somehow gained a claim on Hungary.

Hungary, its levies depleted from fighting off simultaneous attacks from Croatia, the Pecheneg raiding tribes, and the rebellious Duke of Ungvar, was quickly subjugated by Bohemia, becoming a part of the Holy Roman Empire. Oh noes! The King of Bohemia quickly died under suspicious circumstances and due to succession law discrepancy, the Kingdom of Bohemia passed to his eldest while the crown of Hungary passed to... House of Poth! Yay!

Now in his 70's (this guy just did not die, also I can't remember his name), the new King of Hungary immediately joined the Independence faction, and surprisingly was granted independence (along with Ancona, Tuscany, Lombardy, Provence, etc.) He quickly died and was replaced with his nephew, I think, the Count of Feher! Yay! Under his reign, Hungary focused itself on remaining in its dejure borders and spreading the Poth dynasty, which comprised of more than half of Hungary's dukes, as well as a few dukes in Poland, the Duke in Karvuna and the Duke in Bavaria. He was a pious man, and crusaded against the Pechenegs with the Pope, gaining the kingdom. He then died in his middle age.

His son, the Quick and Ambitious Somedude, looked to be the perfect heir. He granted the Kingdom of Bulgaria to his brother (as long as it was in Poth hands I wasn't concerned), which quickly was attacked by Cumania seeking to reinstate a few Tengri Pecheneg dukes. Hungary naturally came to Bulgaria's aid, hiring mercenaries and holy orders, and got crushed by a 20~30k stack. Ouch. The Duke of Ungvar, the rebellious bastard, then petitioned the Duchess in Temes replace the King. Alright, she was in my dynasty, I had no levies, I accepted. Oh dear. Then ANOTHER duke pressed his claim, because everybody was in the same dynasty. Then Poland, allied with Croatia, pressed a claim. Then the goddamn Holy Roman Empire (!!!) pressed a claim that it got because all of my vassals voted for myself in the last election while he and his vassal voted for him, making him second in succession and granting him a claim!

AARGH.

Now for some reason the Emperor of the HRE is Hungarian, rules in Holland, and Hungary cannot break out of the HRE because literally everybody loves this bloody emperor and the kingdom is just a heap of dukes I can't attack because of the alliance conditions as they are of my dynasty...
 

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Let me tell you a tale of the House of Poth.

The House of Poth ruled the county of Skezefehervar, chosen explicitly for its ridiculous name, and its history. You see, Skezefehervar was historically a royal residence, and one of the most important cities in all Hungary. And Count Otto (I think) of Poth saw the greatness that was Skezefehervar, and set himself the goal of returning the capital of Hungary to the city.

Under Otto's rule, Skezefehervar expanded greatly, gaining the counties of Feher and Vas, changing the succession in Pecs to Elective and becoming the elected heir to the Duchess before stabbing her. He then quickly died, and was replaced by his son, under which the Duchy of Pecs grew to become the largest duchy in all Hungary. It covered the duchies of Temes and Pest, as well as the county of Budapest. Sadly, during this golden age of Pecs, the King of Bohemia somehow gained a claim on Hungary.

Hungary, its levies depleted from fighting off simultaneous attacks from Croatia, the Pecheneg raiding tribes, and the rebellious Duke of Ungvar, was quickly subjugated by Bohemia, becoming a part of the Holy Roman Empire. Oh noes! The King of Bohemia quickly died under suspicious circumstances and due to succession law discrepancy, the Kingdom of Bohemia passed to his eldest while the crown of Hungary passed to... House of Poth! Yay!

Now in his 70's (this guy just did not die, also I can't remember his name), the new King of Hungary immediately joined the Independence faction, and surprisingly was granted independence (along with Ancona, Tuscany, Lombardy, Provence, etc.) He quickly died and was replaced with his nephew, I think, the Count of Feher! Yay! Under his reign, Hungary focused itself on remaining in its dejure borders and spreading the Poth dynasty, which comprised of more than half of Hungary's dukes, as well as a few dukes in Poland, the Duke in Karvuna and the Duke in Bavaria. He was a pious man, and crusaded against the Pechenegs with the Pope, gaining the kingdom. He then died in his middle age.

His son, the Quick and Ambitious Somedude, looked to be the perfect heir. He granted the Kingdom of Bulgaria to his brother (as long as it was in Poth hands I wasn't concerned), which quickly was attacked by Cumania seeking to reinstate a few Tengri Pecheneg dukes. Hungary naturally came to Bulgaria's aid, hiring mercenaries and holy orders, and got crushed by a 20~30k stack. Ouch. The Duke of Ungvar, the rebellious bastard, then petitioned the Duchess in Temes replace the King. Alright, she was in my dynasty, I had no levies, I accepted. Oh dear. Then ANOTHER duke pressed his claim, because everybody was in the same dynasty. Then Poland, allied with Croatia, pressed a claim. Then the goddamn Holy Roman Empire (!!!) pressed a claim that it got because all of my vassals voted for myself in the last election while he and his vassal voted for him, making him second in succession and granting him a claim!

AARGH.

Now for some reason the Emperor of the HRE is Hungarian, rules in Holland, and Hungary cannot break out of the HRE because literally everybody loves this bloody emperor and the kingdom is just a heap of dukes I can't attack because of the alliance conditions as they are of my dynasty...

WoW...:) Just this...
 

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You simply aren't ambitious enough.

Or you could just switch to senority and watch the rocks fly.

I had forgotten that Seniority existed. Huh. Cool. But I think I'll abandon that save; the HRE is blobbing through Pommerania into goddamn Lithuania, the Ilkhanate has swallowed the Seljuks and are blobbing through Cumania after being stopped by the Abbasid Caliphate that got independence real early and is now blobbing with Jihads, meanwhile France is in Spain, again, and Scotland is practically nonexistent thanks to Ireland and England. It's like this game is the worst.

It's possible that this is because I started in 1081. Does that screw up the balance? I wanted the Byzantines to lose (sadly they beat the Sultanate of Rum.)
 

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My immediate plans for 1.09:
Make PB compatible within 24 hours.
A few bug fixes that I've already done. List of changes made so far:

Fixed the war ending inconclusively when trying to install someone else as the leader of an Elective realm
Saxon infantry now uses the Scandinavian sprites (except shields) as this is more historical. Credit goes to Sleight of Hand
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hehehe...Sleight and Esben have some a really special connection....:p
Meneth were are you buddy...??? give us something about the new chnagelong if you like...
 

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@greek: Try refreshing the page before you post ;)

I did...
5-6 times before I posted...but somewhere between those you posted first...;)
 

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I look forward to the new version. Whether I'll be able to pull off an update for VIET as quickly will be another question.
 

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I look forward to the new version. Whether I'll be able to pull off an update for VIET as quickly will be another question.
I'm sure you will buddy...:)
 

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Let's hope so. :)

But then again I don't think anyone would mind waiting one day or two... right? :happy:
Yeah buddy...from my point of view take your time and as a result give us a more polished version right??? not that your usual version lack polishing or anything...You get my point I believe...;)
 

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So. I formed Burgundy as Aargau (in 31 years as my first character nonetheless - he died at 79) and am still part of the HRE. I have all of the kingdom except half the French part and Provence, which belongs to my mother. I also have Alsace, Swabia, Upper Lorraine, and 3/5 counties in Lombardy. The thing is, I can't press my vassal's de jure claims on the other counties in his de jure duchy. I don't see anything in the changelog about this, so what's wrong, exactly?

Also, I forgot, if I'm a king and I press a random courtier's claim on a duchy or county, that just changes rulers for that one title and I don't get them, right?