Project Balance

[Meneth]

By the way, if anyone's wondering whether PB will be updated for the 1.101 beta patch the answer to that is no.
Paradox decided that it'd be best if people who own the game on GamersGate did not get any access to the beta patch. So since I don't have the game on Steam, there's no way for me to update for it.

 

[Meneth]

Hey, I've noticed that when playing with Project Balance, culture-specific demesne titles seem to be disabled? Have I installed it wrong/is there a way I can turn them back on? Really wanting a Norse Ireland and it's a bit annoying to have Thormond/the Jarldom of Munster when I could have Hylmrek/the Jarldom of Hylmrek.

That's being fixed next version for those areas where I haven't extensively changed the dejure setup. So all the cultural names will be added in Britannia.

 

[Meneth]

Speaking of de jure titles and all that, I've been wondering lately - is there a reason why you split up vanilla landed_titles.txt, other than for convenience? Because I've found that it gets kind of annoying to merge things between new patches when they add in a lot of things into landed_titles.txt.

It's mostly for convenience. I change so much it was impossible to compare it with the vanilla file anyway.
Next version will have a bunch of comments about what's changed. Some files just have a comment up top that it's extensively changed from vanilla, but the rest have a comment at the top of each kingdom listing everything that's changed. So that makes it much easier to compare to vanilla.
Watch the beta branch and you'd known this already

 

[Meneth]

I see

monthly_salary = 0.1
    monthly_prestige = 0.015

but I'm not sure how to use scaled wealth for the salary. I'd especially love to scale salary based on councilor attributes a la EU4, but I'm guessing that's not viable. I'd love to make it so that employing councilors is something you do if you've got cash rather than just a default action you take, but I doubt the AI can handle that and I seriously doubt it knows to ditch the bastards if they're breaking the bank.

I'm also looking to add in an Incite Uprising job action for the spymaster, which seems easier but might unintentionally break shit. Probably going to add in a few special events for Republics looking to incite rebellions that'll give them the option of paying a shedload of cash to rebels to buff em up, with the possibility of them swearing fealty to the republic (causing an event for the feudal liege to get a claim grabbing the place back) if the republic sponsors them. Seems fun, liable to cause havoc and might even make republics more exciting.

To my knowledge the salary is actually generated from pure air; it's not taken from anywhere.
Looking forward to seeing what you come up with with that Incite Uprising action.

 

[Meneth]

This GiTHub thing...do I just go beta, 'Fork this repo' and apply it over the latest release and I'd have the latest build?

Fork it. Then clone it to your machine (assuming you've installed their tool). Then just start making changes and the GitHub tool will detect them and let you commit them easily to your fork.
If you've got any changes already, just overwrite the cloned files with them and the GitHub tool will detect that too.

Using symlinks you can also edit the mod files directly and still update your repo. That's what I do; I've got symlinks in the mod folder leading to the actual mod files in my PB-git folder.

 

[Meneth]

Project Balance 3.2.10 released

SWMH does not currently work!
Should be compatible with any saves from 3.2.X. Some changes might only apply to new campaigns. Do note that there's a moderately higher chance of this update breaking saves than most updates.
If you encounter any issues or have any feedback, please report it in this thread.

Download: .7z archive version

• Dublin is called Dyflin if part of a Norse realm
• Ensured most of the title files are up to date with 1.10; a few dejure changes, but mostly just cultural names and such
• Flanders is now dejure French
• Greeks will no longer try to restore external inheritance in Byzantium
• The AI will generally wait until it's stronger before launching faction wars
• Fixed Hamburg's ships being unusable
• Made Norse religion blue, Slavic religion greenish, and Zoroastrianism red
• Fixed one issue with the siege imprisonment events that could lead to rebels holding characters prisoner
• Made the AI smarter about who it'll send their court chaplain to convert
• (Based on 1.101 changelog) Subjugation can only be done done once per lifetime unless you've got the Become King ambition
• (Based on 1.101 changelog) Norse Pagans can no longer employ the coastal conquest CB against other pagans (neighboring counties can still be taken though)
• (Based on 1.101 changelog) Tengri Pagans are now limited to Agnatic succession
• (Based on 1.101 changelog) West African pagans can now also raid
• (Based on 1.101 changelog) 867: Byzantium is now properly on Primogeniture, not Gavelkind

 

[Meneth]

While we're on the subject, I made the fork, but the changes you made to the beta since the forking aren't registered, how do I synchronize the beta in my fork, with the one you are working on?

Make a pull request. Make sure your fork is on the left side, while the beta branch is on the right.

 

[Meneth]

An idea. Call Sweden "Great Svithjod" if controlled by Pagans.

Religion-specific title names are currently doable except by scripting.

 

[Meneth]

Not sure if you saw my post last page about problems with prisoners taken during sieges. I saw you mention something on the patch thread about scripting issues with raiding parties, could that be what is causing this problem?

There's no way to check specifically for raids, yeah. Once there's a trigger for that it'll be simpler to check specifically for that, though siege imprisonment should be working pretty well now.

Crap =/ But it can be done by culture?

Yes.

 

[Meneth]

I may have found the cause of most of the issues in D&S now. I'm testing right now to make sure.

 

[Meneth]

Well I don't know if it has to do with it being a raiding party or not, but being magically transported from Anjou to Thomond and taken prisoner is not very good. Could the save be the problem and I should start a fresh game or should I just use the console to give myself the 70 gold to pay the ransom and keep playing?

I believe I've found the cause of that very issue, yes. So hopefully all issues will be gone in the next patch.
Once I've finished testing it I'll push it to the beta branch so people can test it for themselves.

 

[Meneth]

The fix seems to've worked. The only times I took any prisoners was when I assaulted and won before the first siege pulse (so they never got a chance to hide).
It's been pushed to the beta branch, so feel free to install it and test it for yourself.

 

[Meneth]

Is "Only Having the Become King" ambition really that significant a limitation? It's not like it's hard to get, for the AI or for the player. It doesn't help that de jure Lithuania is much, much bigger than actual Lithuania... (well, the actual "Kingdom of Lithuania", at least)

Essentially, you can't use it outside your dejure kingdom more than once.

If it's made a once-in-a-lifetime, only for Duke or lower ambition, there's no real problem I think.

action_incite_rebels = {
    attribute = intrigue

    trigger = {
        any_province_lord = {
            NOT = { character = FROM }
            NOT = { is_liege_or_above = FROM }
        }
    }

    local_revolt_risk = 0.01
    events = { 932 933 }
}

I've tried this, and while it showed up correctly in game it didn't seem to have any actual effect on the revolt risk of the province the councilor was on. Which sucks, but I suppose I can hunt down how to spawn rebels and do that instead on a small chance via an event.

Spawning rebels is simple enough. I think there's one event that does that in PB_various.txt.

 

[Meneth]

Just to check, this is from the Chancellor job action trigger.

trigger = {
        has_job_action = action_improve_relations
        location = {
            any_province_character = {
                OR = {
                    primary_title = { higher_tier_than = BARON }
                    same_liege = ROOT
                }
                is_priest = no
                NOT = { is_liege_of = ROOT }
                NOT = { character = ROOT }
            }
        }
    }

ROOT in this case means the Chancellor, correct? So when this triggers, it can't be the Liege of the Chancellor (AKA the person who placed him) or the Chancellor. Right?

FROM = {
            location = {
                # Increase revolt risk
                add_province_modifier = {
                    name = religious_tension
                    duration = 365
                }

This bit from the Lord Spiritual events seems to offer an alternate (and in many ways preferable) method for pulling this off, as it'd additionally let me add in a few events about sponsoring the rebels with different options based on the type of ruler.

I'd just check that the owner of the province isn't ROOT/liege of ROOT.
That province modifier code looks valid. 365 days is probably too short to affect things much though.

meneth, you are a ck2 wizard, maybe you can help.

i have joined the war of my wife, she wants to break free from hungary.
But even though hungaries armies are red and even siege my cities, my armies wont fight their armies, how to fix?

Sounds like a vanilla issue.
However, you could try attaching your armies to your wive's armies. That should ensure they join the battle.

 

[Meneth]

Project Balance 3.2.11 released

SWMH does not currently work!
Should be compatible with any saves from 3.2.X. Some changes might only apply to new campaigns. Do note that there's a moderately higher chance of this update breaking saves than most updates.
If you encounter any issues or have any feedback, please report it in this thread.

Download: .7z archive version

• Now compatible with both 1.10 and 1.101
• Fixed significant issues in the siege imprisonment events
• Subjugation gives +30 to opinion. Subjugation of people of another religion gives +20 to opinion

 

[Meneth]

Is "free infidel revocation" disabled for Tengri?

It's disabled for all unreformed pagans, yes.

 

[Meneth]

D&S is definitely fixed, well done. You're a machine since 1.10 launched.

e: Pagans can get Free Infidel Revocation if they create a kingdom tier title. Only Revocation Allowed has a condition that the title holder is not an unreformed pagan, and since you get that law when you create a kingdom, you can meet the requirements for Free Infidel Revocation with no problem.

Fix pushed to beta branch.

 

[Meneth]

So I wake up, find that there's a 3.2.10 update. Then I leave home, and when I come back, there's a 3.2.11 update.

I must find out what sorts of crazy modding magic you use, Meneth.

Follow the beta branch and you'll see some of it in action

 

[Meneth]

I'm not sure how it works. I've created an account, but I don't know where to go from there.

Hit Watch and you'll get emailed whenever a change is made, or you can set it to alert you via RSS.
If you've got personal modifications you can make a fork and apply your changes there, and then periodically use pull requests to keep it up to date a lot more easily than manually comparing.

 

[Meneth]

I don't know if this bug has been fixed or reported lately, I've looked and found nothing.

During a tournament, my character's lance shattered, and wounded the opponent. After this event, though the opponent does get the wounded trait added to him, the next event in the chain implies that my character was wounded and lost the match, though he continues to fight in the tournament. I'm guessing the notification event is just being pointed at the wrong person.

Tourneys are buggy, but luckily jordarkelf has said he'll be working on fixing them.

I really like the religion color changes.

I'm going to return to restoring Zoroastrianism in Persia.

Have fun. I'm especially fond of the Slavic color; it's so nice and calm.

Consistency Bug:

Turning on the "No Ahistorical Empire" module makes Björn Ironside start as King of Sweden in 867, not as from of Svithjod.

I'll look into it. Edit: A fix has been pushed to the beta branch.