Production Priorities?

[GPounda]

So I've been reading a lot of excellent treads and compilations recently and it leads me to a question. . . is it possible to enjoy a fulfilling game getting full experience in land, sea, and air?

Germany starts with 40 MIC and 10 Naval.

From what I understand I need the following by 1939:

Air force:

• 3,000 Fighters
• 400 CAS
• 250 Heavy Fighters

Naval:

• 6 BC
• 4 CA
• 1 LC
• 28 DD

Army:

• 80 - 100 Infantry (8 Inf/2 Arty)
• 20 Panzer (4 LT/6 MOT)
• 30 Garrison (6 Cav)
• 60 Coastal (6 Inf)

Where am I supposed to get the MIC, by 1938, to have all of these units trained and equipped?

 

[Bryartuck]

28 Battleships by 1939?!?!? I don't think even the US could pull that off! Pretty sure you meant DDs there.

Current meta for air is to spam CAS, though that is subject to change with 1.4.

As Germany I usually put naval stuff on a back burner until I have most of what I need to secure the continent.

 

[GPounda]

28 Battleships by 1939?!?!? I don't think even the US could pull that off! Pretty sure you meant DDs there.

Damn right 28 BB's!!! LMAO

Thank you for pointing that out to me.

 

[thexmassteam]

Is it for SP or MP?

If SP then, for a more or less historical calendar (I say calendar, not OOB )

• 80 - 100 Infantry (8 Inf/2 Arty)

• 20 Panzer (4 LT/6 MOT)

• 30 Garrison (6 Cav)

• 60 Coastal (6 Inf)

It's too much.
60 coastal is too much, you need from 5 to 10 in 39, from 20 to 40 in 40, maybe a little more if you plan garrisoning Italy/Yugo/Greece. But as Germany bet on some Exp. forces.
30 garrison also too much in 39, you need that by the end of french campaign, and only when all your troops have moved to the SU border or whatever you next plan is on.
80/100 Inf in 22 width is ok to safely cover all your fronts.

As @Bryartuck said, naval production can be delayed a bit. Add maybe a few NAV to air production, to cover baltic sea and north sea and maybe provide few help to Italy in med. NAV are good for attrition on navy imho. But maybe CAS is enough to such mission.

To get enough CIC/MIC, you have anschluss, munchen and build few CIC in 1936 (in order to trade for resources if you plan a export focus to get bonus), and MIC, all that with the proper infra according to the NF infra/CIC/MIC. And if you do not plan take care by yourself of Asia rubber, maybe some refineries, for when you switch to less export law.

Also, if you plan to train your troops to get xp, Maintenance company can save you lot of equipments, even in Inf division. It's something you can try.

 

[GPounda]

Thank you @thexmassteam.

My experience is that to properly garrison France, Poland, and the Low Countries and protect the coastline i need the 30 Garrison and 60 Coastal. If I wait until I have France then it is very difficult to build them as my units need to be reinforced.

I read that until I have NAV II I might as well use CAS I as they are more accurate against shipping.

I never thought to use a Maintenance company for training purposes. . . excellent suggestions, thank you.

Are you suggesting that if I invest the time to build CIC in 1936 I will still have the MIC by 1938 to effectively produce what I require?

 

[thexmassteam]

For garrison I often end to just train the minimal time, and I always have lot of spare inf.equip and support (yes, I put Eng in my garrison, and after 41 I often add old art as support). And As I let an Army (24 div) or half an Army in France until I need it for SU or helping Italy, not really need that much until mid/end 40. Also notice that AI often try to land in 3 or 4 place max. So once you get them, reduce/reinforce in the good spot.

For CAS you're rigth. But I always end building TAC, cause of flexibility and range, even if I build some CAS for barbarossa. Unfortunatly I didn't really face any significant armoured opposition from SU in my games :'( So yes, definitly go CAS outside of roleplay.

You're welcome, I must confess it's not my idea, someone in the division thread suggest it last year

Yes, I'm suggesting that But it's 1.3.2, so may be wrong with current version. At some point between 1938/1940 if I don't build some CIC early I have to made some choices for import or building shiny stuff as radar, atlantic wall, infra in poland ... most of these are not really needed, and I'm pretty sure you can go full MIC from start. But there is no reason to not be able to build what's needed in 1939/40 with a few more CIC at start.
According that :
- you keep a full efficiency Inf. equip.1 line until you get the next level line with good efficiency too
- you do the same for Art.

Spoiler: some screen

mid 1939 equipment surplus, with 40 width div in early mech rush game.

1940 equipment in the same game, notice in 18 month I get my Inf ready for barbarossa plus all needed for garrison/suppress, just finishing my Armoured forces.

Mechanized Armored Div for the lulz ;p