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[unmerged(530776)]

Sooo i was Serbia married a Byzantie princess been around 100-150 years i owned Byzantie 100-150 years since than my Dynastie rulled Byzantie now i have a problem i wan't to switch back to Serbia is there any way to make Serbia my primary title cause technicaly Serbia was a Empire but not in the timeline of the game but is there any way to make Serbia my primary title?

 

[Manic Eskimo]

only if your highest title is king.

also when was Serbia an empire?

 

[Darkgamma]

also when was Serbia an empire?

From 1346 to 1371

 

[unmerged(530776)]

Are you for real il tell you from 1346 to 1371 we owned Balkan for crying out loud http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_Empire

 

[Darkgamma]

The Serbian empire is, unfortunately enough, not represented in-game, unlike, say, "Francia".
As far as I remember my history lessons, Stephen Dushan wanted to supercede the Byzantine empire - his son was incompetent enough to lose a third of his country within a year of his father's death

 

[unmerged(530776)]

Well yea and Dark it is Stefan IV Dusan Nemanjic the Emperor of Serbs and Greek yeah title name i do not know why the Serbian Empire is not represented in any of Paradoxes games

 

[gekomees]

Are you for real il tell you from 1346 to 1371 we owned Balkan for crying out loud http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbian_Empire

First I've seen this. Interesting read. Would be cool to see this in game with certain prerequisites (for example (*) Byzantine Empire doesn't exist). De jure territory would be Kingdom of Serbia and Kingdom of Greece?

 

[tuareg109]

Well yea and Dark it is Stefan IV Dusan Nemanjic the Emperor of Serbs and Greek yeah title name i do not know why the Serbian Empire is not represented in any of Paradoxes games

I think it might be because the de jure Byzantine Empire already holds Serbia. It should be included as a titular title, I suppose.

 

[Darkgamma]

First I've seen this. Interesting read. Would be cool to see this in game with certain prerequisites (for example (*) Byzantine Empire doesn't exist). De jure territory would be Kingdom of Serbia and Kingdom of Greece?

But, it co-existed with the Byzantine empire

 

[Hackworthy]

Bulgaria was also an empire but the fact is these empires existing would remove de jure regions of Byzantium which was a far more important empire. However, there is a mod called Kingdoms Abound that allows the creation of titular kingdoms for any duchy and titular empires for any kingdom.

As an example, I did this with it:

 

[gekomees]

I've never understood why a county must only be de jure part of one empire. Was de jure that big of a term back then, did they have world government? Did the peasants care about anything other than their own well being?

But, it co-existed with the Byzantine empire

(*) Byzantine Empire holds less than 15% (or whatever) of their de jure territory.
The possibilities are endless.

 

[unmerged(530776)]

But why cannot i make Serbia my primary title?

 

[Darkgamma]

Because Serbia in vanilla CK2 is a kingdom, while the Byzantine Empire is... an empire. Empire > Kingdom on the ladder. You cannot have a primary title that's one tier lower than your highest tier title (so, you can't declare the Kingdom of Serbia your primary title unless you lose the Byzantine Empire title)

 

[Hackworthy]

I've never understood why a county must only be de jure part of one empire.

Because it's kind of a key part of a lot of the game's mechanics. Multiple entities holding de jure status over one region would only muddy things.

 

[tuareg109]

Because it's kind of a key part of a lot of the game's mechanics. Multiple entities holding de jure status over one region would only muddy things.

"muddy"

Hey buddy you spelled "intensify" wrong