Problems with the new Exploration Missions

[heliostellar]

I'm not sure if this is WAD or not. I'm playing as BUR -> NED. I haven't tag switched yet because I haven't hit the appropriate Admin tech level yet, so it is very early in the game's timeline.

Anyways, I can't select ANY exploration missions even though I can hire explorers and I have good relations with Castille who is giving me fleet base rights. The only option listed is for circumnavigation which is grayed out anyway because I haven't hit Diplo 9 yet either. If I could manually explore then this wouldn't be an issue. I don't mind having an AI-led Burgundy not able to explore and having weird colonization results, but I'm not like this determinism in my human-led game.

Can you at least let me have access to the exploration missions Castille or Portugal would have if they have agreed to give me fleet rights?

 

[DominusNovus]

Its based on your colonial range. Since that hasn't been tied to basing rights in... a long time, having basing rights does nothing for you.

 

[heliostellar]

Its based on your colonial range. Since that hasn't been tied to basing rights in... a long time, having basing rights does nothing for you.

Yes, I just figured that out. I would think that exploration should be based on your naval range though.

 

[Tweakee]

Yes, I just figured that out. I would think that exploration should be based on your naval range though.

That wouldn't change anything, because it's likely they'd code the AI to not give you fleet rights if you could use it to out-colonize them.

 

[Johan]

Its based on your colonial range. Since that hasn't been tied to basing rights in... a long time, having basing rights does nothing for you.

This.

 

[Granatenwerfer]

But this is a pity! In my next game as Hungary I plan to send an explorer army of 12k men to America to raid the Indians, as I know they have a lot of money what I want to take. I don't want to have any colonies, but I still want to send an army to the new world, what is not possible, if I understand it right.

BTW to send out an explorer or conquistador manually makes so much fun! Please, please, please Paradox do not change anything here.
I need to discover manually new land, not too much at once, because I want to found a colony first as I know 25 years later all other nations get to see this new land automatically. It is a stragegically aspect, too IMO.

 

[hjarg]

BTW to send out an explorer or conquistador manually makes so much fun! Please, please, please Paradox do not change anything here.
I need to discover manually new land, not too much at once, because I want to found a colony first as I know 25 years later all other nations get to see this new land automatically. It is a stragegically aspect, too IMO.

Well, if your definition of fun is forcing fleet manually sail past Cape Verde for 50 times in order to finally discover the province, then yes.
Second, it's 50 years and even if they see it, doesn't mean it they are able to colonize it yet. They need colonists and range as well.

 

[Granatenwerfer]

Second, it's 50 years ...

50 years? Okay, then it is changed by PDX. I have my information from the manual.

Second, it's 50 years and even if they see it, doesn't mean it they are able to colonize it yet. They need colonists and range as well.

In my version of the game every time I colonize I have powerful competitors like Spain, Portugal, Great Britain, France and so on.
Especially France seems to like it not do discover anthing but to colonize provinces I discovered first.

Well, if your definition of fun is forcing fleet manually sail past Cape Verde for 50 times in order to finally discover the province, then yes.

This is definitely not my definition of fun. You have a strange kind of interpreting the opinion of other users.


EDIT: My suggestion is: Why not allowing both ways of discovering? The players who love to discover anything automatically should do it automatically while the players like me who want to have some 'work' with discovering should do it manually.