problems of a collectivist genocidal maniac

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kidney killer

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So, i like playing collectivist bugs and I am super cool with slavery.
I purge any pop that diverges too much or i make them into slaves. When i conquer other species i put them into sectors and i let the governor enslave them. Problem is I do that the governor enslaves everyone including the scientists and energy producers. (Consequently when I create a sector for my bugs, the governor does not make any pop into slaves, super frustrating). Will the conquered populations ever turn to towards my collectivist militaristic, materialistic ideology? Or is a pop set once it spawns?

I didn't notice any change over a number of years so i purged their planets and populated them with my loyal bugs. This unfortunately caused my allies to break relations with me. To make maters worse they can still enter my system and scan planets, etc. yet I cannot enter their territory nor close borders with them even though they broke relations with me. Super frustrating! Message says I cannot close borders because i broke a truce... even though i never broke the truce.


Are my dreams of ruling the galaxy under one pure race impossible? Is it possible to have competently run sectors ... with slaves?
 

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Wait until Thursday, then your problems with slavery will go away.

But if you keep playing until then or on the 1.4 patch afterwards, then be aware that the sector AI enslaves based on your ethics. Wiz said in a different post (forget which one) that if you're xenophobe, then the sector AI will enslave everyone. If you're just collectivist it will enslave unhappy pops, and pops on food or mineral tiles. He didn't say what would happen if your empire is both collectivist and xenophobe, but from my experience it seems that the xenophobe behavior is the default.
 

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Yep, new patch comes out on the 6th. You have more control over how slaves behave and who is considered a slave, so the issues you're seeing shouldn't exist in the new patch.