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magistrat70

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Dear developers! I would very much like that you would pay attention to the problem with the seizure of Norway. The Reich is not capable of landing in this region, but historically it was one of Germany's most important strategic victories. I would like to see a solution to this problem.
 

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Seeing this in my games too. As Italy I decided to give them a helping hand with naval superiority, but the German AI still didn't plan any naval invasions.
 

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After having spent a good while with HoI3 before finally being able to hold off the massive German invasion as Norway, imagine my excitement at getting to try doing the same in a new game with UI I could understand. I was so excited that first game and I got started (Also helped that the first commander I hired randomly got the name of one of my grandfathers, it was brilliant in every way). Then imagine my surprise as I geared up for the invasion that never came. Ended up doing my own "D-Day" - liberating Denmark and ivnading Northern Germany. For my efforts I was awarded most of Germany to rule (ah I rememebr the early days when democratic nations would just take nothing in the peace deals, 'twas a gold mine to be in the Allies at the end of the war).

It is strange that they struggle to do it so often, though I will say that at least I saw the Axis try it in one of the 1.5 games, which was incredibly rare in earlier versions. I do believe they would have succeeded too in the end if not for the usual defeat of Italy and Germany to the Allies & Comintern at the time. In any case, it is a minor concern, the Axis AI struggles to handle all its fronts already, if "forcing" it to invade Norway would compromise it further I'd actually rather thigns were left as is.
 

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The problem is that you can't launch naval invasions without naval supremecy which is basically impossible to do as Germany because of the massive british fleet.
The way I conquer Norway as Germany is to use paratroopers instead but AI never uses paratroopers.
 

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I wonder if it's possible for Germany to have a special strategy script written where it masses its navy in the Baltic in early 1940 and have them invade Oslo.

Just in general though, Germany should really be made to keep its navy in the Baltic (and maybe the North Sea) if it's not being controlled by a player.
 

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As I recall it was the naval battles in Spring '40 that brought the Kriegsmarine down from weak to useless, so it would be nice if the AI could just hold its ships in port until it's ready to invade Norway.
 

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Can confirm, about 1000 hours in HOI3 and i've only seen 1 successful naval invasion of Norway by Germany.

They generally succeeded when I played as one of the Western allies, if I didn't throw a completely ahistorical number of troops at Norway to stop them. You really had to let it happen though.

At least they tried in 3, right now the declaration on Norway seems to be an awkward clause in the small print they didn't see when signing the declaration on Denmark that they just ignore.
 

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The problem is that in struggle to stop german ai from trying to invade British Isles PDX made it incapable of performing any type of naval invasions. You could of course write some script to make them stack their fleet near Norway but german ai hardly ever considers itself as a country with a strong navy witch prevents it from planing this kind of operations.
 

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Another issue this creates is that several of the interesting decisions added by the latest patch are dependant on Norway capitulating, which if they never do is pointless.