Problem when when creating vassal as Patrician: vassal always become feudal lord, not mayor

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As playing a patrician, I noticed a problem that might be an error in the game. When I have too much holdings, I try to create a vassal. I do this in a province where I own a city. Strangely enough, the button "Create Vassal" doesn't work on those cities. Also, when I grant the province to a lord by granting landed title, it automatically creates a feudal lord (a count) instead of a Lord Mayor. How is this possible, and can it be prevented? Is it a bug?

The situation is so strange that, since I only own the city, not the other holdings, the new count has the note "wrong type of holding in demesne", since he is a count, being holder of a city...
 

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Not a tech support issue so moved to main forum. If the community agrees it's likely to be a bug, post in Bug Reports please.
 

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It's resolved. It appears that the characters all have a "preferred government type". Some prefer feodality, and when you give them a city, they still become a feudal lord, strangely enough... I don't know if that's supposed to happen, but i resolved my issue by only granting counties to lords with "republic" preference...
 

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When you say "When I have too much holdings, I try to create a vassal. I do this in a province where I own a city. Strangely enough, the button "Create Vassal" doesn't work on those cities." Are you referring to a county where you own the capital or a city barony?
 
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I believe he's referring to the main holdings of the counties. It's not possible to use the create vassal button for main/capital holdings, you can only use it for the sub-holdings unfortunately.
 
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I believe he's referring to the main holdings of the counties. It's not possible to use the create vassal button for main/capital holdings, you can only use it for the sub-holdings unfortunately.
That was what I suspected. When he said "Also, when I grant the province to a lord by granting landed title, it automatically creates a feudal lord (a count) instead of a Lord Mayor" I was thinking he might be giving the capital holding to local feudal barons but his second post seems to suggest another problem.
 
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