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KungMarkatta

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Ok so here I am. My first game of HOI. Starting out easy as Sweden. I've read the manual in a faaaast way, gone though some tutorials and so on.

Heres my question: In every province you can Improve AA, Infrastructure, Fortification etc - just by pushing a button and waiting XXX-days. But... what is the cost for doing so? I havent been able to find out the cost for example Improving Coastal Defences a notch... And I have looked here and there but found no answer...
 

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Originally posted by KungMarkatta

Heres my question: In every province you can Improve AA, Infrastructure, Fortification etc - just by pushing a button and waiting XXX-days. But... what is the cost for doing so? I havent been able to find out the cost for example Improving Coastal Defences a notch... And I have looked here and there but found no answer... [/B]

I don't gave the game yet (grrr...) but I do remember reading somewhere that building certain province improvements cause half of your IC production in that province to be "lost" while the upgrading work is underway.

(damn - Timme beat me to it)
 

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Originally posted by Timme
Could it be that the specific provinces loose half their IC output for the upgrading period ? I think i remember something to that effect.

That could be it! I remember having something like 60 IC and then after starting various projects in different provinces I suddenly had something like 40-50... but this means its VERY cheap to get a GOOD Anti-Aircraft defence in a 1 IC province...

Sooo does someone know for sure?
 

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Originally posted by KungMarkatta
Heres my question: In every province you can Improve AA, Infrastructure, Fortification etc - just by pushing a button and waiting XXX-days. But... what is the cost for doing so? I havent been able to find out the cost for example Improving Coastal Defences a notch... And I have looked here and there but found no answer...

It affects the IC production of the province during the upgrade period.
 

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Ok, now i'm getting convinced that the IC for the province that is being improved in one way or another is reduced for the time it takes for the improvement to finish.

Ok...

Thanks for answering so fast... :)

Still wondering a bit about it being so cheap to improve in many of my provinces though... but thats cause im playing as Sweden I guess..!
 

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Well if the cost is a mere 50% of province IC (not IP ? ) for building you are right to say that this is goddamn cheap...

Except then perhaps province build at a rate directly relative from his IC...

Said if the game count it take 30 day to upgrade and you lost 50% of IC during upgrade then we have a bug/tweaking to be made.

Now if the game count it take 40 IC to upgrade and use those 50% IC you lost to do so then we are fine.

Can somebody from the inside of teh engine tell us wich way it work ? Patrick ?
 

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It sort of makes sense though, as provinces with a smaller industrial base (=less ICs) would require less protection/upgrading, since there simply is less to protect/upgrade. :D