prob with 'make puppet' command

[HMS Enterprize]

Hi forumites,

Im having a problem with the 'make_puppet' command. For some reason it is causing a CTD and I cant figure out why...

At the moment I have this event-

event = {
id = 50079
random = no
country = U00

# Triggered by 50078

name = "xxx"
desc = "xxx"
picture = "american_surrender"
style = 0

action_a = {
name = "xxx"
command = { type = coup_nation which = USA }
}
}

On its own this event works fine, so I know for sure it is not a problem with the event...However, once I add in the-

command = { type = make_puppet which = USA }

it crashes to desktop?!?!? Anyone have an idea what is wrong? Should the puppet command be in a seperate new event or am I just missing something?

Many thanks in advance.

 

[unmerged(39808)]

Probably it should be in separate event (for sure giving independence and making country a puppet must be in separate events) but I don't know why you have CTD.
OTOH maybe the major country could't become puppet?

 

[Ayeshteni]

I havent tried it, but I think seperate events are probably needed.

By couping a country you are altering the ministers and ideology, while trying to do something similar with the make puppet. Try spreading it over two events (maybe not necessarily over 'trigger which' events but events with trigger conditions that necessitate the first event and ideology triggers, to spread the two events somewhat)

See if that fixes it.

Ayeshteni

 

[HMS Enterprize]

This is weird...I made a seperate event for the puppet command-

event = {
id = 50130
random = no
country = U00

name = "xxx"
desc = "xxx"
picture = "military_parade"
style = 0

trigger = {
event = 50079
}

date = { day = 0 month = january year = 1936 }
offset = 1
deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1947 }

action_a = {
name = "Victory!"
command = { type = make_puppet which = USA }
}
}

Again, I do not get any loading errors and the event fires, its just when you acknowledge the event it CTD's...?

Help!!

 

[unmerged(39808)]

Maybe try to make this event for ENG instead of U00 - there are some problems with UXX countries.

 

[HMS Enterprize]

Maybe try to make this event for ENG instead of U00 - there are some problems with UXX countries.

But then the USA will be a puppet of the wrong country...

 

[HMS Enterprize]

It it possible, that a nation cant be made a puppet of nation Uxx if the USA is still at war with japan, for example?

 

[HMS Enterprize]

Ok...I have both made sure that USA is at peace before the event fires and I changed the event so ENG gets to be puppet master and I still get a CTD!?!?

Im running out of ideas....

 

[Zuckergußgebäck]

Doesn´t the USA control Liberia and the Phillippines as puppets? IIRC puppets cannot have puppets.

 

[Brasidas]

Doesn´t the USA control Liberia and the Phillippines as puppets? IIRC puppets cannot have puppets.

Not true. China gets puppetted all the time while having Xeibei as a puppet

 

[unmerged(39808)]

So maybe try to put into event minor country instead of USA (HUNgary or whatever) - just for test. Maybe it is because USA is major and canot be puppeted.

I know that for south Africa and few minor countries it's OK.

So try to puppetize other country if it won't work then you will know that you can't make USA a puppet!

 

[HMS Enterprize]

OK, I have done some more tests and I replaced USA in the target line with Brazil and lo and behold, it puppets it correctly...

The obvious question now is why???

 

[unmerged(39808)]

I think it's because USA is major.

Try to puppetize ENG, GER, FRA, ITA, SOV or JAP - they are also majors.

 

[HMS Enterprize]

This is getting more bizzare...I have tried so many combinations now and the results dont make sense!

I dont think its a major/minor problem because I managed to puppet UK, so then I thought it might be an existing puppet issue so I tried puppeting ottomans who have egypt and iraq as puppets and that worked fine also

Confused....

 

[Ayeshteni]

Perhaps there is a special issue with the USA tag that causes some problem.

I don't know.

Ayeshteni

 

[HMS Enterprize]

^I wish somebody did know....

 

[Ayeshteni]

^I wish somebody did know....

hmm. have you tried using an intermediary. Have a nation be puppeted by Liberia. Have USA annex Liberia (making the first nation a puppet of USA) then have USA release Liberia.

Would that work?

Ayeshteni

 

[HMS Enterprize]

aaarrrgghhh! For the love of god, what is the deal here?!?!? Ive been banging my head against this for 2 days now!!! Its a god damm mystery!

Ive entered some psuedo-game where USA is immune from the puppet command!!!... and to make matters worse this is a crucial element to my mod!! Which is slowly being ruined by this stupid situation!

Im going into the corner with my blankie to cry...

 

[unmerged(39808)]

Change the TAG
Move everything from USA to ie KUR (Kurdistan).

 

[Sarmatia1871]

There may be an issue with this U00 TAG you're using - what country is it exactly and what data is coded for it? And have you tried modifying the event to test if it still crashes if a normal country (eg. Britain...) puppets the USA?

I know that countries puppeting others get all of their national claims from the puppet - so there might be an issue if U00 has any claims on US territory. Also, if its 'regular_id = USA', this may also cause some problems.