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unmerged(33865)

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VAT was supported by the founder of the P4P, Jonh Kenny, who is now out of the picture, and by the ESA as a way of funding the higher levels of health and welfare spending that the campaigned on, but didn't expect to pass once they saw the hostile make up of the GA. Then came the additional evidence of the extent of deterioration in military preparedness, which didn't fit into their budget plans at all, because it directly contradicted another campaign promise. As long as we don't announce our plans to do so, we can eliminate the VAT next term if we have a better solution. The problem is not as easy as VAT: good or bad?

To start with, the GA needs to pass a budget. The administration will propose one if VAT passes, or a different one if it fails. Any MGA is free to propose their own version of the budget, but the administration might not spend all of the amounts budgeted, especially if the extra spending is for the military and it is financed by issuing more debt. For the remaining year and a few months, the stance of the President seems to be that he would only increase spending on the military if it is matched by increased spending on the items he campaigned on, and is covered by government revenues, probably so people aren't cursing for years about the big deficits he ran up. I have been able to persuade him on many matters, but it would be hard to change his mind about that one.

The highest Federal income tax rates is 20%, but there is another 20% going to the provinces. Raising the marginal rate above 40% would seem to create worse problems than the VAT would. Running bigger deficits, even if we could get the President to go along would complicate the problems being faced by the ECB to try to deal with inflation. Therefore, even if we hated VAT, there might be reasons to consider it now. Will the imposition of VAT now be followed by a recession, probably. But the recession is already fairly likely anyway with the interest rate rise. I have said enough, lets see what our other colleagues think.
 

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I agree recession likely, if not already here. However, I think VAT will only deepen the affects of the recession, and make recovery more difficult while it is in place.

You're right that Joe may not spend money on a budget passed that goes against his wishes. However, at least then we have the budget in place for next term and the funds secured. When it comes to spending, and I know this is a crude break down, I have the following priorities at the moment.

First is infrastructure improvement and expansion, this will help create jobs, make Eutopia a more attractive to investors, and increase our overall economic capacity. Obviously we can't do everything we'd like, but we can do things in stages.

Second is economic recovery. Infrastructure is a big part of my plan, but there are other areas where we can spend a few ducats to help get things off the ground.

Third, is police and military. We obviously need to modernize our defense, and our law enforcement coudl probably use some expansion and new training methods. Loic, you can speak more authoratively on that than I.

Last, social spending. This isn't because I'm some cold hearted social darwinist, but simply because there is absolutely no evidence that we need to spend money on healthcare. The only social spending increase I could support at this time would be something directed towards job training.

If we agree to jettison military increases, maybe Joe would agree to dump his social spending on health care. Then we can spend on areas that are a bit more important without racking up huge deficits that make VAT necessary in some eyes.
 

unmerged(33865)

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The draft budget contains funding for the acquistion of the Interprovincial Highway System, and an addition to the system, building an extension to Uxbridge which is not served by rail. I would be happy to consider other ones, if they are offered for public comment and supported by sound cost benefit analysis.

I will be proposing security retrofits on public buildings, in addition to the already suggested increase in FLEA agents.
 

unmerged(24047)

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As i already expressed in the GA, if another VAT issue is put on vote, i would probably vote yes.
I think that adding a VAT (even if it could be a temporary option) would help the government going on with a plan for infrastructure.
I'm no economist myself, but i don't think that a value added taxation would worse the condition of the market.
Basic goods shouldn't be affected, and work goods (like machinery and such) should also be free of the VAT.
Mr. Langley, would you please help me understand why you oppose a VAT?

Mr. Langley, i must agree with your option of "infrastructure first", it will inject some work and wealth in Eutopia, and it could also make economic recovery much easier (industries can grow much easier where the substrate allows, like where there are lots of infrastructures).
 

unmerged(33865)

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I would like to thank all the former P4P members for joining as well. Given the influx on new members, I think it makes sense to hold a leadership election. I nominate John O'Floinn to continue as party leader and myself as the new Deputy Leader.
 

unmerged(33865)

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I would appreciate it if one of the MGA's from this party or Jean Saint Daere would introduce a supplemental appropriation bill for post-ECB bombing security enhancements. Each ministry needs to spend about 100 million ducats on enhancing security for its buildings (a one time expense of half a billion ducats) with an additional 300 million ducats per year for additional FLEA agents. This will be in the budget when proposed, but I would like to get this started sooner if possible.
 

unmerged(10397)

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Yes, of course, welcome to the UMP, Per Sweerd.

On another note, given that it's been over a week since Per Fourgères proposed I retain leadership, and no other candidate has been presented, I shall consider myself duly re-appointed to the office of chairman, with Per Fourgères as my Deputy.
 

unmerged(33865)

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Sep 2, 2004
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poll in newslink said:
Loic De Fourgéres: 18%
John O’Floinn:16%
Jake Langley:14%
This certainly speaks well for the UMP, with 48% for one or another of us already. With Kazimierz Reczynski at 12% dropping out of sight, I expect that Talbott will throw his hat back in the ring if Tulp at 5% doesn't.
 

unmerged(33865)

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I have attempted to start a discussion with the Commissioner of Justice about prison reform, depending on what happens this term, it may result in some potential platform planks for the upcoming elections. It would probably be a good idea if everyone took a look at the existing platform and made suggestions as to what areas could possibly benefit from some updating. Speaking of everyone, has anyone seen Jake Langley around recently?
 

unmerged(24047)

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Per O'Floinn, the term is goin to its natural end, may i ask you if we could already prepare some kind of programme for the next Electoral Campaign?
Nothing too complicated, just a quick sketch....
 

unmerged(10397)

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Excellent idea, Major.

So far, the basic points I'm thinking about include:

Continued investigation into the ECB, with emphasis on determining how best to reorganize our intelligence/defense departments to ensure this type of event doesn't happen again.

Prison reform, which I believe was a major goal of the P4P.

Economic recovery and improvement, especially our plans to best utilize our natural resources by trade agreements with foreign countries.

Continuing efforts to modernize our military to ensure the safety of our nation.

Thoughts, anyone?
 

unmerged(33865)

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I have broached the general topic of Prison Reform with the new Commissioner of Justice, so as to avoid the problem that I had with our Party leader when he was COJ, but haven't heard anything back yet. Let's give Per Tilly some more time to respond before fleshing out something that he might not be comfortable with implementing.

The voters will not just compare platforms and vote on which is closest to their views. As Per O'Floinn has pointed out on his TV show, the people have suffered due to the absence or inactivity of their leaders. Half the battle is just showing up! Our record in that area is the best:
  • Our member Jean Saint Daere was the only MGA to get a bill passed in the first half of the legislative session.
  • When the courts had to come in an reorganize the GA, our chairman was the one who got it running again.
  • I am the only cabinet member (except the President, who has no choice) to have served for the full term.
The people will know that if they vote for us they will get elected officials that show up, and that if someone needs replacing, they will be replaced. This should be a good part of our message, not just what we will do, but the diligence that we devote to doing what is right for the people of the UPE.

I will review the platform and see if there are some other points that might be worth bringing up here.
 
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