PRIVATE - The Eutopian Socialist Reform Party (AF) HQ

[Josephus I]

I'm surprised. Given that you're a supporter of Soviet doctrine. The USSR used women in combat in WW2. But, anyways, I agree. I believe in the "everyone according to their ability" doctrine. If some women are better able to use their services in other branches of the military, all the power to them.

I don't understand, though, your argument against a professional army. A professional army is better trained to "handle weapons' as you say.

I think, the basis of our argument over the past year or so, has been that the likelihood of a war against Eutopia is minimal. Therefore, a conscripted army is not necessary. A well-trained professional force is better trained to deal with all manners of warfare, including terrorism.

I mean, really, when was the last time a nation had to have full mobilization?

 

[unmerged(17471)]

I don't believe that Eutopia is ever going to war again, nor do I believe that we would ever be invaded. So I'm for a professional army, that can handle the "threats of today", as terrorism.

 

[m45tion87]

I agree! Professional army is also cheaper choice:

Professional Army
+ Well-trained
+ Small, but efficent
- Costly training

Conscription Army
+ Cheap to train
- Must be strong/huge to be efficent ie. costly size
- Sounds weaker

These are MY reasons...

- Bill

 

[unmerged(19003)]

USSR sure did use women in warfare, but it was WW2 and the units were volounteer, which only backs up my opinion - there are exceptions and they should be allowed to demonstrate their ability, but a full-scale female conscription is just wrong for a non-desperate country (read: not Israel).

I am against fully professional army since it does not leave a fully trained reserve. That's the only reason to be against it. But, I would be totally for increasing the number of professional (contract) units and decreasing time for conscripts in the army (to a six months period, for example. Just enough for training).

And size in conscript army is not costly. It's mostly demobilised, that's all.

 

[Josephus I]

Igor,

You've obviously interested in the military.That's good to know. Maybe we can put you up for Minister of Defence in the next government.

In the meantime, let's agree to disagree on this aspect. Overall the Party feels that conscription is not necessary. Eutopia is not threatened by external forces. However we're glad to have you here, and welcome your opinion on this and other matters.

 

[unmerged(19003)]

For the good and unity of the Party and the Workers, I will submit on that one, for now. But it does not mean I change my mind .

 

[Josephus I]

Well, I think I'll hold off on talks with the RD for now....I think they're in worse shape than us...

Hey Bramarius, John...whatever happened to our VAT plan? Should we introduce that in parliament?

 

[Josephus I]

Comrades....a makeshift Roll Call office has opened here It is important to sign up. For our newcomers, the roll call is sort of like a census that happens every now and then to see who is still active. So sign up.

 

[unmerged(19003)]

Done

Hmm... is it a good time to start some agressive campaigning already?..

 

[m45tion87]

Maybe... How long it will take until next election?

- Bill

 

[unmerged(19003)]

dunno, but not much . Everyone says "it's coming" .

 

[Josephus I]

I would wait until an official election period is announced...with Mel back and roll call on I expect it anytime soon. If you want, captain, you can be our propaganda chief for the next election. BTW, I've added the captain to our membership list at the top of the page.

 

[Josephus I]

Comrades,

I'm thinking about having a Party Convention in the near future. This convention will basically be a discussion of additions and simplifications to our Manifesto. It's also a time for all members to participate and speak freely about their involvement in the Party and where they would like to see the party head in the future. I will also entertain ideas about a leader election.

So if you think of anything you would like to add to our agenda let us know.

So far the agenda is...

1. Singing of the Internationale

2. Ratification of the Party Leadership (this would be the time to call for a leadership election)

3. Ratification of the Party Manifesto. (this would be where changes/additions to our manifesto would be made)

4. Specific directions for our Party in the immediate future (this would be where we seek consenus on issues to support or not in Eutopian politics)

I don't have a specific timeframe for when this will be. Most likely it will be AFTER the next Eutopian election.

Thank you

Josephus I [signed in accordance with the new game rules]

 

[unmerged(17471)]

Bram!

What about the tax raise. What do I need to do?

 

[unmerged(17471)]

I have set up a puplic office for the airport expansion


[OOC: Should I set up the gambling commision as a MTEF?]

 

[Josephus I]

I'm not entirely sure whether gambling falls under your jurisdiction. It's more of a gaming thing, that maybe the culture minister might handle. It might be best to post in OOC to make sure.

Regarding the tax...if Bram's up for it, and you're content with it, bring it up to parliament as a bill (Bram could do that) and I would second it.

Also, the Airport Bill that's currently in parliament. It might be late now for a commission given that it's in Parliament. I think I might vote "yay"...although I won't impose a Party Policy on this. My feeling for voting "yay" is that when I was Minister of Economics I did support something similar, and the member who brought up the Bill did include the coda that I asked for--the bit at the end about the enviroment.

The Airport expansion will bring economic growth in the longterm and in the short term it will hire a lot of labour. I also have environmental concerns, but the Bill proposes that the environmental concerns will be addressed.

Also, I think I've pissed off number of moderates of late, and every now and then it's good to tow the line for the benefit of the Party.

 

[unmerged(17471)]

So the president doesn't think I'm supporting the administration???

 

[Josephus I]

I think he's angry at me, John, and taking it out on you.

 

[unmerged(17471)]

Power corrupts...

 

[unmerged(10397)]

Originally posted by JohnLiep
So the president doesn't think I'm supporting the administration???

(OOC: Sorry to say, but O'Floinn has every reason to believe you aren't. Josephus is leader and is not supporting it. You have never spoken up that he doesn't represent you all, so O'Floinn has no choice but to take the leader's words as the party's words. A good talk with the president would clear this up)