PRIVATE - The Eutopian Socialist Reform Party (AF) HQ

[Josephus I]

Yes, we should.

I know you're busy Archy, but would you like to run our campaign.

I was thinking of the enviornment and high unemployment as being key campaign targets.

Good luck with the Topa.

 

[Josephus I]

Places call to Dr. Vlaminck on his cell phone. No response, so leaves hurried message on his voice mail.

Archy, it's me---"Che." Hearing confusing, conflicting calls coming out of Topa. Let me know you're OK. If anything really bad happens and you need help, call "Trotsky", he's our "Eutopian Coal Miners Social Activity Fund" representative in the region. He's got friends, if you know what I mean.

 

[Archeolooginspe]

*Calls back to the ESRP HQ*
Hello, Josephus, I'll contact mr.Trotsky if I would need him. But further more I would be interested to be the Campaign Manager. But for speeches I'll have to rely on all of you as long as I'm in the WET. I've an idea what do you think about offering the WET, province status? Do you Think this will be feasable.

 

[Josephus I]

I think that's a good idea, Archy.

We'll add that to our campaign agenda, as well as the immediate removal of the US military base.

 

[Josephus I]

Comrades,


We will be beginning our campaign soon [ooc: thread]. I need to hear from you about issues we should fight for.

I've mentioned:

Environment
Employment
Removal of US Naval base from WET

any ideas? I've noticed the CC--specifically my good friend Jake-- has already jumped at the deficit-cutting bandwagon. No doubt, his government-spending cutbacks will affect the workers/ unemployed/ low-income earners that we are hear to protect. We should definately take a stand against this. I like to hear from some of you who know economics how best to counter this argument. I would like to suggest we drop interest rates to fuel consumer spending--raise employment-- more income taxes--more gov't spending--less bailouts as one option.

Any more?

 

[Josephus I]

[ooc: this brings up memories of my role in Eutopia v. 1.1]

We have no sales tax in Eutopia. A three-four percent sales tax will boost our coffers [we can campagin on this as a defict-reduction ploy]. What you say?

 

[Bramarius]

Originally posted by Josephus I
[ooc: this brings up memories of my role in Eutopia v. 1.1]

We have no sales tax in Eutopia. A three-four percent sales tax will boost our coffers [we can campagin on this as a defict-reduction ploy]. What you say?

Only 4 percent? How's about 19? They have it all around Europe you know, so it's not uncommon or wrong!

 

[Archeolooginspe]

*an e-mail arrives from dr.Svein's laptop*
I believe some will start screaming murder when you threaten with a 20% sales-tax. So start moderatly.
You know, promising to increase taxes, is bad for elections

 

[Josephus I]

yeah, Bram, what Archy said. Campaiging on a high tax rate will not win us votes.

If we start moderately, push for--ok, a 5 per cent sales tax. We plan on increasing that each year. In our campaign we'll show fiscal responsibility, show that this tax will be used to cut our defiicit and once that is done we'll possibly remove it.

On another note: The coal miners have asked us to speak in Jacobia. I have commitments in Eutopia City; so I'm wondering if any of you would like to make a speech there [ooc: campaign thread].

 

[Bramarius]

May I then suggest to have 2 tax-categories? The lower (say 3,5 %) would be for goods like food that everyone needs, and the higher (say 7%) for luxury goods (stuff like cars, computers, and entertainment))

Also, has anyone read the latest issue of the Educational Reformer? They had a test and gave the perties notes. We got a D+. That means a dead last place. Even the CC got a C-!
Something should be done... but what?

 

[Josephus I]

Bramarius,

I can live with your sales tax proposal. Actually i can even go further by not putting tax on certain items like groceries; baby clothes; diapers; drugs; feminine stuff; and those sort of essentials.

I haven't seen the Educational Report yet...thanks for the heads up. That's written by a capitalist conservative, is it not? Take it for what it's worth.

[edit:] Ok, it is supposedly written by a neutral.

I read it and don't think anything of it whatsoever. He rates Vlamninck's work highly but then slams us with a low grade. Why? Because we supported a Bill that he didnt like (yet strangely gave the CRE high marks for proposing it.)

It's a well known fact that the ESRP is a strong supporter of an educated citizenry. So they can say what they want.

 

[Bramarius]

Yeah, I also fou8nd it rather... suspicious...

Anyway, we should get out ballot to the CRO. The list presented by you seems fine to me.

 

[Josephus I]

[OOC: Hmmmm. Swear I replied to this hours ago...strange....]


Bramarius, I'll wait till closer to deadline; just in case anyone has objections to the List....although I doubt it.

Comrades; the coal miners are getting antsy. They would love one of us to give a campaign speech in their headquarters. They're raising a fair bit of dough for us. Any takers? Maybe John or Del would like to give it a shot?

 

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Is the tax scheme based on income?

Surely the rich should pay more tax than the poor.

 

[Bramarius]

Originally posted by Shiiuga
Is the tax scheme based on income?

Surely the rich should pay more tax than the poor.

OOC: the rules about this appear to be lacking (at least I couldn't find them)... mel?

 

[unmerged(17471)]

If the taxes aren't based on income, it would be a good point to raise when speeking the the coal miners...

And I will be away from the 21th of june till the 28th of june... so if any thing happened in the anti terror commision I would love if any of you took over for me in that period. [OOC: Schools out! Vacation]

Ps. I was thinking of posting this in the commision, what do you think?

Definition One: Something which targets non-military targets

By the first definition you're calling, lets say, any nation that have ever gone to war for terrosrists...
Yes yes, democratically countries don't target innocent people, but they are well aware of the losses that they inflict on the civil population.
So I will agree with that one
War is terrorism with a bigger budget!

 

[Josephus I]

Originally posted by Shiiuga
Is the tax scheme based on income?

Surely the rich should pay more tax than the poor.

Have to look into that; I think it's an even tax. A progressive tax rate is something we should look into.

 

[Josephus I]

[OOC:John is there any way you can get online and vote when you're away? We need your vote. If you can't, PM Mel and see if arrangements can be made.]

 

[unmerged(17471)]

I have send my vote in the mail... (pm mel)

ps. What did you think of my comment on the anti terror?

 

[Josephus I]

Yeah, John, I agree with that point too.