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Thank you for having me. I will do my best to earn your welcoming words.

When are the elections exactly? I haven't immersed myself in the political calendar as of just yet I'm afraid.

I believe the list looks fine and am happy with bringing up the rear. I certainly do not exclude the possibility of committing myself to a more active political life in the future, but as of now I am quite happy with an existance endulging in mostly internal policy matters.

 

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I'm back now, (OOC: my country got annexed)

 

[Josephus I]

Welcome back Shiiuga [ooc...sorry about the annexation ]

Comrades, I'm not sure what's going on in Parliament, but there may be discussion of an Unemployment Insurance Bill. I thought we did this once already.

Bramarius and De Vlamnick....please monitor this in Parliament. It appears rather draconian....forcing claimees to do Public Works....In fact I list here my basic beefs:


Bill concerning Unemployment Allowance

Part 1, Procedure of getting Unemployment Allowance.

Article I, Employer Notification

All of this is fine. In fact I'll just skip straight ahead to the stuff I question...


Article III, Meeting with the Employment Office Staff (EOS)
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On the first meeting the Employee and the Employment Office Staff (EOS) will provide career counseling for the Employee and assist the Employee in finding an available job. Should the EOS be unable to find work for the Employee they have will place the Employee in a Public Works program to qualify for Unemployment Allowance. (Examples of jobs in this program include: running some sort of sport or spare time activity for children and teenagers, doing garden work, etc.)

No. A worker is entitled to employment insurance. He has paid into a fund, as part of regular paycheque deductions. He does not need to perform community duties to claim his due. I'm all for the worker having to show that he is available to look for work, and show that he is sending out resumes. The employment agency should help the worker gain employment in his/her career field. Public works programs affect the claimee to focus his time on updating his resume, and looking for proper work.

Part 2, Size of the Unemployment Allowance.

Article I, Standard Unemployment Allowance.
The National Employment Office decides the Size of the Standard Unemployment Allowance. It must provide enough for adequate sustenance, but no more and will have to follow the currency value.

I think the draftee of this Bill is confusing Unemployment Allowance with Welfare. Unemployment allowance should be uniform, based on a percentage of his pay--to a ceiling. I think we already have this legislated anyways.



The rest of it is fine. Their should be a time limit. Possibly one year. After that, if he still hasn't found work, Social Security steps in. If necessary the Employment Office can help a claimee upgrade his skills through some sort of education program.

 

[Archeolooginspe]

We'll follow it closely. I'm researching some new posters for elections. (ooc: trying to find a new ftp account, forgot the password for redweyoun's and I think I may be up to something)

 

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[OOC: I got a ftp account.. if you need one ]

EDIT: About this parliament. How many members do you expect that ESRP will get?

 

[Archeolooginspe]

(i've got one to, directly from my computer, it works , only problem I can see is that If I'm not on-line you can't see the picture, but I've got ADSL so no trouble I think.)

 

[Josephus I]

Originally posted by JohnLiep
[OOC: I got a ftp account.. if you need one ]

EDIT: About this parliament. How many members do you expect that ESRP will get?

Hard to say. This election is the first time that the GMs are using some form of random modifier. given that we're a small party, that can only help. We also have six members now. We can get 2-3 MPs if all goes well. If we form a governmetn we can also get 1-2 Ministerial positions too.

 

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Originally posted by Josephus I
So due to seniority/activity....my initial feeling for the List is like so:

Bramarius
Dr. De Vlamnick
JohnLiep
Shiiuga
Del
Josephus

So I have a chance of becoming a member of the parliament? Or what?

 

[Archeolooginspe]

Originally posted by JohnLiep
So I have a chance of becoming a member of the parliament? Or what?

I say it this way you've got a change. Last elections I had your place. But Josephus became Minister and gave up his seat of Parliament. If Someone of us would become Minister I'm sure he'll resign his seat for you. So yes you've got a change if we become a part of the next government. Otherwise you're chance are slim. ESRP has mostly 2 seats. And with new randomization rules it can be totally different

 

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I also have webspace for file storage purposes, if anyone needs it, but not for anything big.

 

[Josephus I]

Comrades,

A week ago I asked whether or not this Party is willing to support the CPR coaliton for another term. Two of you responded Yay. Now, we have more members. It's time to ask again:

Do we wish to continue our membership in the four-Party coalition? A yay or nay would suffice, but I would like to hear reasons.

The CPR is one of two hopes we have of forming a government. The other is with an RD alliance and a bit of luck. There are pros and cons to each; but I've become less anti-Coalition as I was a week ago.

Frankly an alliance with the RD is more self-serving; I trust all of them; wheras although I've only found a few MP members trustworthy.

However in the spirit of democracy, et.al. I am willing to back the coaliton for another term.

The RD, of course, has also not necessarily offered us a Coalition agreement either. They may support the CPR too. So, in any case, we may not have a choice.

The CRE has asked us if we're interested in a coaliton with them. Personally I'm against it. I'm open to your thougths.

Comrades, we have done well this term. Given our small party base, we have made our issues known. We must continue the struggle to the best of our ability. I once again appoint Dr. Vlaminck as our Propaganda/Campaign manager.

We should also think about some issues to bring up to the CPR, if we agree on it, to the legislative agenda for next term.

[EDIT: Edit some stuff my character had no knowledge of.]

 

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(OOC: Two quick comments. Firstly, I have never publicly stated I would not allow Vlaminck to talk to the Topa, I have not commented on it since I agreed to let Smith, in his capacity as DMIA, act as negotiator. Secondly, it's O'Floinn why does everyone always imagine there's an r....)

 

[Josephus I]

[OOC: Phalanx. You're right. I could have sworn you said something in the government thread, but you didn't. [You cover your butt well ...I will remove the line from my previous thread. I'm sorry.

And re: the name. I always thought it was Florin

 

[Archeolooginspe]

(ooc: it was indeed in the party thread of the MP, a better political move than Mr.Smith questioning my authority in public)

My idea of the coalition has became a little less. Because the Party who considers itselves moderate may as well change it name to Conservative. My personal feeling by the personal attack on my loyalty by Mr.Smith, with which man I'll work like I should be in the WET, show that they just see us as ruthless red crazed revolutionaries and have views of us like the CC, which IMHO is normal for a Conservative Party, but not for a Moderate Party.

I prefer not becoming a member and even go into opposition if we can't find someone to make a coalition with.

 

[Josephus I]

Good point Archy.

Any other opinions?

 

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I had, from the beginning, a hard time understanding why we were in a coalition with a conservative party. And I will still question it.
My proposal is that we decide which bills we want to make the next term, and then we ask the rest of the parties if they would work on that with us. If they wont, I can't see a reason to continue the coalition.

 

[Archeolooginspe]

Ok Mr.Smith (The Rebel) is a member of the RD!?!?!

I'd prefer the RD as coalition partner, but I watch out for Mr.Smith. (ooc: My IC is rather unforgivable ). And maybe the MP.

 

[Josephus I]

Originally posted by JohnLiep
I had, from the beginning, a hard time understanding why we were in a coalition with a conservative party. And I will still question it.
My proposal is that we decide which bills we want to make the next term, and then we ask the rest of the parties if they would work on that with us. If they wont, I can't see a reason to continue the coalition.

John....I agree. Being in a coalition with a conservative party doesn't make full sense. However, the other choice, last term, was to be shut out of government completely. If, and only if, all three other parties are committed to the coaliton once again, i suggest we should be in it. It's our only guarantee of having a say. I'm not a big fan of the CC.

Ideally, i would love to see a ESRP-RD and possibly MP alliance. But it may not be completely up to us.

As for an agenda...I see two major things we might want to work on:

Environment. this has been neglected in the past.

Unemployment...Eutopia has a rather high unemployment rate. We have to stimulate the economy somewhow.

 

[Archeolooginspe]

*dr.De Vlaminck calls from the road block*
Comerade,

I'm yet arrived safely in Farpoint with my escort. only problem is they won't like the marines to pass. I'm also waiting till i hear something of Mr.Smith who leads our mission here.

 

[Archeolooginspe]

*another phone call from dr.De Vlaminck*

Comerades, since elections aren't to far away anymore. Shouldn't we start thinking of our campaign. (ooc: open campaign thead?)