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Part of it is still classified, but INTERPOL already knows the nuclear issues, so I expect some of your international law enforcement types would already know as well. We approached you at the begining of my term about trying to get spare parts for some of air force's aircraft, which had become dangerous to fly. You were unable to accomodate our request. Since our old aircraft are of American manufacture, this left us no choice if we wanted to return a minimum necessary portion of our air force to operational status, which was necessary for the defense of our nation. Its atrocious state was what led Cuba to be willing to back the terrorists that struck here last term. I couldn't allow us to remain supine for a repeat performance.

This is the classified part. Therefore, we bought some spare parts in the secondary market. My former MDIS, the late Frans Truman, handled the details of the negotiations. He cleared the amount to be spent with me, but nothing else. I would ask you not to disclose this publicly.

Back to the main story. When the freighter sunk off our coast, I learned of his signing of the blank end-use certificate. Given that we were not at that time signatories of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, it is not entirely clear why the German exporter considered his signature sufficient, but INTERPOL seems to have cleared that firm from any wrong-doing. We are now signatories, as I signed the treaty very rapidly after learning of the matter. The leak and its publishing were of course illegal, and the subject of on-going negotiations.

The air force's least old fighters were thereby quickly returned to operational status, as was needed at the time, and we have since considerably supplemented our fighter strength by the purchase of the new Russian fighters, which of course I would have rather purchased from your country, as I told you previously. We have not pursued any bomber or ground attack aircraft, so I hope it is apparent that our policy is defensive. If attacked we would hope to be able to protect our ground forces from enemy aircraft. Obviously it would do no good against a nation such as yours, but hopefully would be sufficient against some more plausible threat.

Thank you for mentioning the trade angle. I know the Congress isn't always the best at counting the cost, but the total damage to the American economy from this policy, if implemented will be much larger, in dollar terms, than it will be on us. Proportionally, it will hurt us more, as your economy is large and diversified, but we will be able buy most of what we want from the Europeans and elsewhere. We aren't a big market for your main exports. Also, from our years of isolationism, we are relatively more self sufficient than other economies our size. Most of our exports are commodities, which command roughly the same prices whereever after adjusting for shipping costs. You are our nearest large market, so our shipping costs will go up some, but not that much. You have already stopped buying our coal. But why I am rattling on about ecomomics when there is a professor here? Per Talbott, do you have anything to add?

We would appreciate it if the President would veto the measure. We would be grateful. If there is a particular favor or favors you have in mind, then please let us know, and we will do our utmost to work them into our plans. I am also unsure what the actual objective of the sanctions is. The person most involved was fired and then shot himself. We have signed the treaty that takes us out of the field of endeavor. I am already well into my term, I cannot succeed myself in office, and my sucessor will be chosen democratically, by the people here. I suppose our difficulties will give both the Conservatives and the Socialist a better chance in the next election, although the Conservatives' actual policies would not be much different than those of the current administration. Once I get the MESA post straightened out, I hope the new minister will carry through the plans I have outlined for a privatization of the business insurance portion of Omnicare, the government run insurance company. We could perhaps arrange for an American company or companies to have the inside track in taking over some of that business. But of course, they couldn't do that if the proposed sanctions become law, meaning that that their European competitors will steal a market out from under their noses.
 

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"So," Maun says slowly, "you didn't know the material ended up in Iran?" His attache opens a briefcase.

"This photo, Mr. President," says the Colonel, "shows the 'research material' on the docks in Germany. And this one," he continues, pulling out an aerial photo, "shows them being unloaded at Bandar-e Maqam. In Iran." With that, he collects both photos and locks them back in his case.

"So you see, Mr. President," Maun drawls, steel in his voice, "whether you knew it or not, your government aided the Iranian nuclear program. Care to guess which side of 'you're either for us or against us' that puts you on?"
 

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Loic looks at the photos, and sighs involuntarily, wondering who had summonned whom.
"No, I never saw the equipment at either end, so I will have to take your word for it that this is the materiel in question. We didn't know what, where, or when it had been order until after the tramp frieghter sunk off our coast. By then the equipment would have been most of the way to, if not already in Iran. You know when the photo was taken, so you know that as well, but we don't.

If you had analyzed those photos immediately after they were taken, then we appreciate your restraint in not disseminating the information, but it would also explain why the President did not seek to restrain those in his party from voting for the sanctions.

Any answer to your question, which is typical of the kind that your President might face from a reporter, in expecting just a 'for' or 'against' response, is certain of being at least 49% wrong. It speaks of 'your government' but correctly uses the past-tense, as the composition of the government has changed. The Minister involved was sacked and was under investigation for his wrong-doing when he shot himself. Isn't it a bit extreme to characterize a government by the illegal actions of a former minister. I assure you that, now, we are with you in your effort to prevent Iran or any non-nuclear power from developing the bomb. This was publicly acknowledged when I signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Frankly, I am somewhat surprised that this was the equipment they needed to advance their program. They already have reactors and thus can produce plutonium if they are unmonitored and unconstrained.

The arms embargo that your nation imposed created the necessary pre-conditions for this incident. I am not blaming the US for the illegal action of Frans Truman, but the embargo obliged us to look to non-standard sources, as I explained. If we are further ostracized by complete economic sanctions, the likelihood of worse actions are increased. South Korea and Japan are certainly capable of developing nuclear weapons, but don't. While our technology is not up to the Japanese level, it is in some areas comparable to that of the South Koreans, and certainly more advanced than the US in 1945. While I am 100% against the United Provinces of Eutopia developing nuclear weapons, I cannot, given the nature of our democracy, make that assurance for perpetuity. Mis-classifying us with the axis-of-evil, as one in your Congress did, has the unfortunate by-product of making it more likely. That is the unlikely scenario, more probable but still worrisome is that the technological skills and capabilities here could be used, through private transactions, outside of governmental control, to aid nascent nuclear programs elsewhere.

How would an historian compare the actions of Frans Truman to that of the Rosenbergs? I don't know. How should the governments that employed those individuals be judged? Certainly it should not have been a reason to harshly judge the US, to attribute responsibility for the 40 years of nuclear terror that world lived in fear of to the US Government. The degree of responsibility for an Iranian bomb borne by Per Truman is certainly less than that of the Rosenbergs for the Soviet nukes, and the Iranian program remains only a prospect. Accordingly, it shouldn't be a reason to penalize this nation as Congress proposes.

I understood that the main lever you need to dissuade the Iranians from proceeding is cooperation from the Europeans. To the extent that we need to visit the their leaders or provide confirmation to their intelligence services about this incident, to assist you in helping them to decide to do the right thing, we would cooperate unreservedly.

Finally, there is the irony of classifying us with the one country against which we have legitimate causus belli, Cuba. By the old rule, 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' we are found on your side, rather than the other. Speaking of Cuba, Josephus Sergei is no longer my Vice President or a part of the government. I took care of that during that last break. Again, this is another indication that this government has changed.

But you already are aware of most of this, so are there any other questions you have or affirmations you desire, if not, what are your President's intentions in this matter?"
 

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"Off the record, Mr. President, Senator Blowerd was a jackass with some irrational hatred of your country, and no one's going to miss him. Now, you say 'illegal actions of a former minister,' and I tend to believe you, because I think you're a smart guy, but I have to be able to prove it. Have you locked up this Volkov guy yet? What's he saying about . . . ."

The device on the military attache's hip starts to buzz. He ignores it at first, but as it persists, he unholsters it, muttering apologies. He reads the message, and then hands it over to Maun. Maun hands it back.

"Our intelligence reports you've just raised your military alert level, Mr. President. What's that about?"
 

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I believe my Minister of Infrastructure and Domestic Affairs who has responsibility for Federal Law Enforcement has made Volkov's arrest a priority. Such people tend not to be at home when you want them, especially if the newspapers bandy their name about in connection with a matter of this nature, which would have given him ample warning. So I can't when or if he will come into our custody. In the meantime, perhaps you would like to have a private meeting with Hedgar Joover, the Director of FLEA? He could coorborate the points if I have given you the straight story. Perhaps Truman left a suicide note or unburdened himself to a friend or reporter? If we find anything we will let you know, but in the latter case, I expect that you have the resources to find it more easily than we do, as some reporters will be quiet now that the publisher of the leak has been arrested.

The military alert level was at too high a level to start, but I needed to get the military's attention. You know the unfortunate reputation that our Navy has acquired for being trigger-happy. With your heightened activity in and around your base, we didn't want an accidental firefight to start, so we are clearing the navy out of that area, which meant cancelling some leaves, etc. which happens automatically when the alert level is raised. We are also expecting some news about Cuba that also requires us to be at the ready, so it was easier to accomplish both objectives with one announcement. For a civilized country to order a strike against the United States comes under the category of 'famous last words' as it is downright stupid, which is not what I want written on my tombstone.
 

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"All right then. Brass tacks time, cards on the table. Eutopia's important to America; always has been, since the War of Independence through World War II and the Cold War. And even in the global war on terror." Maun leaned back in his chair, took a deep breath, and rolled on.

"Of course, now there's Tilipia and St. Espirit in the mix as well. Honestly, we only need one ally on this island, but since we've already got people in Eutopia, it makes the most sense to stay here. We want a treaty covering Farpoint; Eutopia assigns to the U.S., in perpetuity, all rights to the lands of Farpoint Station, and pledges to never interfere with U.S. activities on that base. Also, we want an additional two mile corridor to the west of the base for a runway extension project. Same deal, we get the land in perpetuity."

Maun leaned forward, close to the President. "This isn't my idea of diplomacy, but my hands are tied, Mr. President. You don't want a veto, you sign a treaty. Otherwise, it's a veto and it is likely that certain parties go public with information relating to Iran and to who . . . ." He stopped himself, glancing over at Talbott. "And other matters."
 

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It is a very clear, concise, and understandable proposition. Thank-you for your clarity. Given the time limit your President has to veto this, you need a quick answer. I have been in favor of having the base there in any case and a slightly longer runway is not going to make a big difference about how this is perceived. There are a couple of questions I will have for you, but I would like to first ask Former President Talbott his view, as a representative of another part of the electorate here, before I do.

PG, what do you think? What would be your inclination? If my next breath were to be my last, as you are again my Vice President, what would you do?
 

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unclebryan said:
It is a very clear, concise, and understandable proposition. Thank-you for your clarity. Given the time limit your President has to veto this, you need a quick answer. I have been in favor of having the base there in any case and a slightly longer runway is not going to make a big difference about how this is perceived. There are a couple of questions I will have for you, but I would like to first ask Former President Talbott his view, as a representative of another part of the electorate here, before I do.

PG, what do you think? What would be your inclination? If my next breath were to be my last, as you are again my Vice President, what would you do?

I'm sure my constituents wouldn't like it, certainly. Let me predict what the papers would say..."kow-towing to the Americans"..."if they can get two miles by threatening an embargo, who's to say they can't get four? or 8? or 1000?"..."giving into political blackmail"...I think you get the idea. Whatever they say, however, it's certainly better than the alternative.

Loss of all trade with the US would be devastating for Eutopia, certainly, and if this were purely economics, it would be a straightforward answer; the benefits of trade clearly outweigh the couple of miles and the uncertain right to end the lease that we'd have to give up. But politics is never pure economics, is it...and you have to ask yourself whether the continuation of trade and, even more politically, the continued integrity of your service as President--are they worth what would be perceived as an egregious loss of sovereignty. That, this poor professor of mathematics can't answer for you. The Buck Stops With Truman, Mr. President. But he's dead, so it'll have to stop with you.
 

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Thank-you for your input, PG. You see the difficulties I will face, Ambassador. The questions I had were these:

There are prisoners housed in the base at present, brought here as prisoners, as opposed to those who were arrested here. Most of these prisoners are not American citizens. Accordingly, some the treatment they receive may not be in accordance with our constitution and they are brought here without respect for UPE immigration protocols, such as the automatic visas granted to any American citizen not having a criminal record in the UPE. By our 'pledging to never interfere with U.S. activities on that base, do I correctly understand that we would give up the right to, in the future, exercise immigration protocols or civil rights applications with regard to those prisoners? Not that we have in the past, but forever is a long time.

Second, we are now signatories of the treaty banning land mine use, which the U.S. has not signed. Does the U.S. maintain that the treaty include the right to keep or place landmines on that territory? As I understand it, that is also covered by the non-interference language you suggest, but it is important that I be sure of the meaning of your offer.
 

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A letter is delivered for the President from the British Embassy. It notes that Eutopian aircraft have been granted clearance to operate - for research purposes - from the airfield at Bottle Creek on North Caicos. It requests an indemnification from the Eutopian government for any accidents that may occur at this unmonitored field.
 

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Voshkod said:
A letter is delivered for the President from the British Embassy. It notes that Eutopian aircraft have been granted clearance to operate - for research purposes - from the airfield at Bottle Creek on North Caicos. It requests an indemnification from the Eutopian government for any accidents that may occur at this unmonitored field.
Loic causes the appropriate indemmification to be issued, and forwards copies of the letter from the British Embassy to MDIS and the Command and Operations Center. An annotation is added.
"To General Condarski, I will take you up on that offer of a test flight in one of the two seater versions of SU-37. Thanks,"
 

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unclebryan said:
Loic causes the appropriate indemmification to be issued, and forwards copies of the letter from the British Embassy to MDIS and the Command and Operations Center. An annotation is added.
"To General Condarski, I will take you up on that offer of a test flight in one of the two seater versions of SU-37. Thanks,"

[OOC: I assume this is not officially known by Ambassador Maun and myself?]
 

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*Talbott keeps an eye and an ear in the direction of Fourgeres while he chats with Ambassador Maun*

Well, I do think I've put in as much input as I can to sway his decision, at least for now.

Oh, yes, there is one thing I did wish to discuss with you concerning this whole affair, that does directly concern my work in the Ministry of Economics, Resources, and Labour. If, God forbid, this thing were to go through, how wide-ranging is it? Is it just banning all imports from Eutopia, or is it prohibiting American companies from doing business here? Because the folks at Recom have been having some interesting chats with some of the folks at your companies recently...Shell, ExxonMobil, and the like.

Oh? Have you not heard? Our good boys down at Recom have found a great huge stash of crude off the northern coast...and a good bit further west. The problem is, oil's not really Recom's specialty, they're more of a mining outfit...so I've been thinking about selling off some of the drilling rights. But with this whole embargo thing looming over our heads, they're uncertain about it, we're uncertain about it. Gazprom's quite interested, but, really, I don't like dealing with the Russians (although obviously the President hasn't shown that kind of reluctance).

So, if you could clear that little matter up for me, I'd certainly appreciate it.
 

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Erc said:
[OOC: I assume this is not officially known by Ambassador Maun and myself?]

[OOC]Correct.[/OOC]

"Our landmines are defensive, and we're not signatories to that treaty anyway. The prisoners are our concerns, not yours, so yes, we'd be asking you to stay out of that as well."

He turned to chat with Talbott while the President was occupied. "All trade, Professor Talbott, and similar sanctions on anyone who sells you arms. It's big time. Of course, there are the usual appeal clauses, and that sort of thing, but it would still be pretty tight."
 

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Voshkod said:
[OOC]Correct.[/OOC]

"Our landmines are defensive, and we're not signatories to that treaty anyway. The prisoners are our concerns, not yours, so yes, we'd be asking you to stay out of that as well."

He turned to chat with Talbott while the President was occupied. "All trade, Professor Talbott, and similar sanctions on anyone who sells you arms. It's big time. Of course, there are the usual appeal clauses, and that sort of thing, but it would still be pretty tight."

Well, that is a shame, isn't it. I don't know what Miss Grajales will tell all those nice folks from Texas...I know they're going to be very disappointed. Of course, if this never gets past the President's desk, we won't have to worry about that, will we? But that's out of my hands.
 

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Loic has to stiffle a whoop for joy when he hears about the oil. Given that Fourgéres Family Holdings has purchased or leased many of the places that the oil workers will be renting lodgings in Western Eutopia, he expects that it will finally begin to show a profit.
"You are free to put landmines on your borders with Canada and Mexico, but of course there is no need in the north and it would be politically and diplomatically unpalatable in the south. You use them in Korea, perhaps around Guantanamo, and here. That puts us in the same category with Cuba and North Korea, both of which you have complete economic sanctions on. The lease has expired on the base, yet instead of seeking a fixed term renewal, you seek to make it part of the U.S. as your answers have just clarified. Should we sign, and some future provocative action from some future government here inflames your congress, then we will be subject to sanctions and would have already signed away the rights to some of our land in perpetuity. That is what is one side of the balance.

On the other is ire of the world's only superpower. The closure of our nearest and largest market. Our late Central Bank governor called it a potential "death-blow" to our economy, but perhaps he was sensing his own mortality. He wasn't as sharp near the end as earlier, and of course he didn't know about the oil.

While I could sign such a treaty, it is not clear that it would be the kind that wouldn't need legislative approval, as the President cannot give away government lands, not that would matter too much to you. This is a weighty matter. My decision impacts generations to come. As I cannot consult them, I have convened the former Presidents of this country to hear their advice. Thank-you very much for taking the trouble to come by here to explain your governments position on this matter. I will sign nothing this evening. I will consult and let you know if I will sign something tomorrow. I bid you, Good-day."
Loic stands, walks to the door, opens it, and stands ready to shake the Americans' hands as they leave.
 

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*P.G. shakes Ambassador Maun's hand on his way out*

"You've got my full support on this deal, Ambassador. As for the President...I can only hope he shares my views," he whispers.

*P.G. leaves the Diamond Office and heads to the local Jail/Presidential Conference Center with Fourgeres, mainly to see what all the fuss is about.*
 
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"Mr. President, Professor Talbott, pleasure as always. I'll ask State to ask the President to sit on the sanctions act until you all have made up your minds." The Ambassador and his attache depart.
 

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Loic causes the appropriate indemmification to be issued, and forwards copies of the letter from the British Embassy to MDIS and the Command and Operations Center. An annotation is added.
"To General Condarski, I will take you up on that offer of a test flight in one of the two seater versions of SU-37. Thanks,"

A note comes back. "Mr. President, you bring the barf bag, and I'll bring the plane. Just tell me when."
 

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A note arrives from the Tilapian ambassador.

Senor Presidente,

I appreciate your keeping us appraised of the situation, and have forwarded your note to the Consulate and the Queen. I have thus far only received a response from General Summers, who is dialing back air patrols from your border. Apparently shortly after it became apparent that your alert level had been raised, our air force began more aggressive patrol routes closer to the common border. As you have reassured us of your country's stance, these patrols need no longer get so close to the line. We apologize for any inconvenience or stress this may have caused you, but of course we had to be certain.

Tilapia continues to condemn the cowardly terrorist attack on the Eutopian Central Bank, and continue to stand by our brethren in the UPE. Though I cannot say definitely that we will be able to contribute to any specific response without knowing the details, we will certainly do our best to aid you. Please keep us up to date.

Sincerely,
Ferdinand Paolos
 
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