Murmurandus said:
if you go more to the left, where should I try to go? That is the question... Where should we "reform"?
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if you go more to the left, where should I try to go? That is the question... Where should we "reform"?
I Killed Kenny said:
Well, I don't know yet, but it doesn't mean we need to totally redo the party program, maybe just add 1 or 2 major social items, which we're going to use as our main campaign points.
Like a complete social security, which has minimum wages, unemployement contributions, replacement salaries if ill, fixed minimum number of holidays for employees, pensions, vacation money... all provided by the Governement. These can be sponsored by employers/employees contributions on wages, health care taxes, ...
What does the party think about this?
Felix D. Murmurandus
Just read Josephus has left the party! This is not good, we're loosing good people here.
If we can not act correctly on this, the party will face some serious problems.
Other people might also leave...
If we can not act correctly on this, the party will face some serious problems.
Other people might also leave...
I have suggested several times that we move our platform toward a more socialist tone, this would keep some members and seperate us from the UP.
Mr. Kenny keeps asking what we can do and I suggested this several times, its annoying when your ignored you know......
Mr. Kenny keeps asking what we can do and I suggested this several times, its annoying when your ignored you know......
I say if the more leftist members want a more socialist P4P they need to come with detailed platformpoints and speeches.
As you all know, the recent events, has caused this party to rethink its platform and campaign. Although I held a great hope that P4P could move toward socialism, I wasnt as naive as to think that this party was my only future. After extensive communication with other socialist the recent forming of ESA, I have decided to leave P4P.
My advice to you all is to learn how to listen to ALL of your members and to work hard not for yourselves, but for the people. I hold no grudges against any members of this party and I hope we can one day come together and change Eutopia for the better.
My advice to you all is to learn how to listen to ALL of your members and to work hard not for yourselves, but for the people. I hold no grudges against any members of this party and I hope we can one day come together and change Eutopia for the better.
As per CRO regulations, I have to mention here that I am resigning from this party. No hard feeligns, I've expressed my reasoning to Mr. Kenny and in Townhall. My reason is purely political and not personal.
I wish Mr. Kenny and the P4P the best of luck in the election.
Josephus
I wish Mr. Kenny and the P4P the best of luck in the election.
Josephus
Ms. keller though it would be a good time to get out of the closet again.
"I think that forming a coalition with the Unionist Party would be the best thing. Throwing mud forth and back becourse of some disputes won't get anybody anywhere. As the UP has a lot of common with the P4P, in ideology, it would only be reasonable to join them. Those who are alike us are not the enemy, it's those who have another ideology that have to be beaten back. If two dogs fight over the same bone - the leftist vote - then the third - the right-wingers - dog will walk away with it. If we create an agreement with the UP, and that party wins, we win too, in some kind of way. And iI think I can make an agreement with mister Al'Aeshir"
"I think that forming a coalition with the Unionist Party would be the best thing. Throwing mud forth and back becourse of some disputes won't get anybody anywhere. As the UP has a lot of common with the P4P, in ideology, it would only be reasonable to join them. Those who are alike us are not the enemy, it's those who have another ideology that have to be beaten back. If two dogs fight over the same bone - the leftist vote - then the third - the right-wingers - dog will walk away with it. If we create an agreement with the UP, and that party wins, we win too, in some kind of way. And iI think I can make an agreement with mister Al'Aeshir"
The other option is to form an alliance with the Socialists. Of course some members left our party to join them, but I think we need to put that aside.
What does the party think? If there is any party left...
If we go with the Socialists we can keep our current programme, which might attract some centrists voters, while the lefties can vote for the Socialists or us. Together we can make it I suppose.
Of course the UP is another option, but I think they will become too strong, which would leave us with few seats.
And BTW we need to form our election line-up before its too late.
What does the party think? If there is any party left...
If we go with the Socialists we can keep our current programme, which might attract some centrists voters, while the lefties can vote for the Socialists or us. Together we can make it I suppose.
Of course the UP is another option, but I think they will become too strong, which would leave us with few seats.
And BTW we need to form our election line-up before its too late.
Yeah we need to make the party list... And should I continue to run for presidency? AS MMDS said, maybe I should so we continue to look as stronger as possible... And with all this socialists leaving, we need to be strong on our believes...
Party Members,
We seem to have some serious problems. We really need to get our act together now.
If we don't do anything the Party will destroyed.
I propose we first sort out who is actually willing to continue with our current Party and its program.
Then we need to fix our election program and line-up.
Then we need to see with which party we can form an alliance (if we want to).
Chairman, if you don't take the necessary actions, other members will be forced to leave.
I am willing to continue to support this Party, but only if we are strong and confident. If we want to achieve something, we need to start now.
Regards,
Felix D. Murmurandus
We seem to have some serious problems. We really need to get our act together now.
If we don't do anything the Party will destroyed.
I propose we first sort out who is actually willing to continue with our current Party and its program.
Then we need to fix our election program and line-up.
Then we need to see with which party we can form an alliance (if we want to).
Chairman, if you don't take the necessary actions, other members will be forced to leave.
I am willing to continue to support this Party, but only if we are strong and confident. If we want to achieve something, we need to start now.
Regards,
Felix D. Murmurandus
Right... just telling I will be unavailable for the next days (Fri-Sun) as I will be abroad.
If eventually we come up with an election line-up, I'm happy with any position.
Have a nice weekend...
If eventually we come up with an election line-up, I'm happy with any position.
Have a nice weekend...
Good day.
I'm sorry to inform that I hereby cancel my membership of the party. It is nothing of personal notice, but merely the fact that I realize after a long consideration that I personaly feel more alligned to the ideas of the Socialist Alliance.
Alexis Keller.
I'm sorry to inform that I hereby cancel my membership of the party. It is nothing of personal notice, but merely the fact that I realize after a long consideration that I personaly feel more alligned to the ideas of the Socialist Alliance.
Alexis Keller.
Well I'm no doctor but I think I can savely assume that this Party is dead. It had potential but now it has nothing anymore. To bad. I'm no longer a member. I'll see ya around John.
I need to agree with commander Tulp.
I hereby resign my party membership.
Sorry to see this happen...
Felix D. Murmurandus
I hereby resign my party membership.
Sorry to see this happen...
Felix D. Murmurandus
John Black walks into the dusy P4P office.
"I'll join this party," he says, "but there will have to be some big changes."
He looks at the neglected pile of membership applications, the unreturned mail, and the general neglect of the HQ.
"Yep, there's going to need to be a lot of changes."
"I'll join this party," he says, "but there will have to be some big changes."
He looks at the neglected pile of membership applications, the unreturned mail, and the general neglect of the HQ.
"Yep, there's going to need to be a lot of changes."
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