PRIVATE - Governmental Commission on Military Reform (GCMR)

[Voshkod]

The Lt. Commander completely misunderstands my proposal. We do not defend the beaches. The enemy will land, will secure a foothold. Then we will grind them up with light infantry in a mobile defense.

Perhaps Capt. Martinez of the Army can explain it better.

I should inform the Commission that I have tendered my resignation from this Commission to the President-Elect.

 

[HJ Tulp]

That still means that we need to build the useless solid defensive positions.
May I ask why you resign?

 

[Erc]

Well, it's a shame to see you leave after all of your hard work.

Now, I'll turn over the temporary chairmanship of this Commission to President Glasser. I myself will remain a member (assuming the chair wishes to keep me).

 

[Voshkod]

Well, I have only tendered my resignation to the President-elect. It is up to him whether he accepts it. I assume he has his own members in mind, and I thought I should give him the option to remove me, if he sees fit.

But Lt. Commander, I specifically said "mobile defense." I do not advocate building defenses. What I hope to see is a mobile Army armed with modern weapons, especially anti-tank weapons, that can hold a position (such as a crossroads, a hillside, or the like), punch the enemy in the nose, and then fall back before the enemy can recover.

Constructed defenses are like surface ships against a modern enemy - large targets, soon dead targets.

 

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I asking that this Commmission temporarily halt its work until a MDIA can be appointed and I have a chance to catch up on the work already done by the Commission. This will likely be sometime after the election for Speaker. I would like to ask, however, Professor Talbott, should he agree, to continue as Chair of this Commission. I do plan on being an active member but think he would do a fine job of leading this group. Additionally I would like to add, per the Constitution, Vice President Al'Aeshir as an observer/occasional commentator.

-Dr. Jonathan Glasser
President of Eutopia

 

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Hey hey, hold on a second!American attack?You seriously think yanquis would attack us?Perhaps you should just change american to "OPFOR"

 

[HJ Tulp]

Captain Martinez is right, the Americans are not likely to invade us.
Dr. Voshkod, your Mobile Army Groups would need MBT's, good MBT's like the Gordon or the Leopard II.

 

[HJ Tulp]

Furthermore, what does the Commission think of my plan to get the embargoes out of the way?

 

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In my opinion we need to reform our troops to combine mobility and firepower. Infantry divisions need to be equipped with APCs and amount of units equipped with MICVs needs to be increased. We also need modernize our helicopter units and to get ground attack aircraft. Also, in order to make my specops proposal to fit with Voshkod's proposal, i strenght of opdets alpha, bravo and charlie should be 120. In my opinion specops would be useful in sabotage and other disruption missions.

also, a proposal of military intelligence agency recovered from archives. Made by former LtCdr MarkinsonAs army modernization is on it's way, i have a proposal about founding military intelligence ageny, which would operate under CiC of armed forces
Name:NMI- National MilitaryIntelligence
Missions:
NMI's mission would be to monitor and analyze military development in areas near Eutopia.NMI would provide analyses about military situation to
government and army command.In wartime, NMI would gather tactical and strategic recce data about enemy forces and consult army command in it's decisions.
Organization
Department I, analysis department.
Analysis department's mission would be to analyze
military development affecting Eutopian national security.Department would be divided into Army, Navy and Air Force divisions, each reporting to Department chief's office which would report regularly to chiefs of staff of the armed forces and national government about current military development. In wartime, Dept would analyze tactical and strategic recce data about enemy forces.

Department II, interrogation department(activated during wartime)
Interrogation dept's mission would to interrogate POW's during wartime(in Geneva treaty limits, of course)Dept would employ professional interrogators who would be in reserve peace time, but during war, would be assigned to POW camps.Interrogation data gathered by the dept would be sent to Analysis Department to be analyzed

Department III, Operations Department
Operations department would gather recce data about enemy forces.Department would have reconnaissance aircraft equipped with ELINT, SIGINT and photographic recce systems.Department would also control special forces units called "Long Range Reconnaissance Teams" which would operate independently behind enemy lines.Recce data gathered by department would be sent to analysis Dept to be analyzed.Dept. 3 would be given a secret budget to conduct it's operations(some things are best not to be told public)

 

[Voshkod]

Hey hey, hold on a second!American attack?You seriously think yanquis would attack us?Perhaps you should just change american to "OPFOR"

Captain: What my proposal was attempting to do was to prepare a defense against the worst case scenario. I did starting by calling them Blueland, but the former President kept referring to them as the United States.

My theory is this: The United States is the only power with sufficient naval force to land forces on Eutopia proper. If we can defend against that, then all other battles are winnable.

We do need to lift the American arms embargo. I recommend we offer a simple quid pro quo. Lift the embargo, or remove your facility at Farpoint.

MBTs are dinosaurs on the defense, and vulnerable to the missile on the offense. Study both Gulf Wars and Grozny.

 

[HJ Tulp]

Dr. Voshkod, threatening won't help, besides the treaty says that they only have to leave the base if they want to. Why not use my idea? It's easier and cheaper.

 

[HJ Tulp]

Furthermore, the UK and France have also the possibility to invade us.

 

[Erc]

Additionally I would like to add, per the Constitution, Vice President Al'Aeshir as an observer/occasional commentator.

Sorry to be picky, Mr. President, but that is only true in the case of Parliamentary Commissions set up by the National Assembly...this was a Governmental Commisssion established by the sitting President at the time (ie me), in which case the current President (ie you) is Constitutionally granted the right to a seat in this committee with full voting rights.

Although if Amric would like to serve on this commission, I'd have no problem with that.

 

[Erc]

As Dr. Glasser ordered a temporary halt to this commission's activities, I won't go into a detailed response to Dr. Voshkod's plans. However, I must say this: Nuclear Weapons are out of the picture. Eutopia has no ambitions for any nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons and steadfastly believes that the spread and proliferation of such weapons...even to ourselves...will create a much more dangerous and unstable world. Besides, that is the scenario that would most likely provoke a war with the United States (in the process of developing a nuclear weapon)--or, at the very least, lead to our complete ostracizing from the world community and a permanent arms embargo being placed on our heads.

 

[HJ Tulp]

Unnecesary delays, bah. When will Mr. President appoint a MDIA?

 

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I appointed a MDIA exactly when I said I would: Right after the election for Speaker when my first choice, Professor Talbott, said he would be ready to accept. If Professor Talbott had won I had an extmremely qualified second choice who had expressed a great deal of interest. Regarldess, considering his position as MDIA and previous history with this commission I would like to have MDIA Talbott continue to chair this group.

Further Dr. Volkod despite your no longer being with ENDTech I appreciate your out of the box thinking and would like you to stay on as a member.

I have caught up with the proceedings this far and let me say this:

1) Nuclear Weapons are off the table. If anything I would like us to sign the Nuclear Test Ban and Non Proliferation Treaty. I appreciate the free thinking, but I can not countanance Eutopia even trying in any sense to become a nuclear power.

2) Dr. Voshkod your analaysis omits a crucial point: With the US Base in Farpoint they already have a breach head should they ever choose to attack. They proved more than capable at taking over broad swaths of our country with our being helpless to respond.

3) I think Tulp presents an excellent strategy for helping to get our embargo lifted.

The things I would like this commission to consider moving forward:

1. Force structure. It seems absurd that the first MRC didn't approve Special Ops. Could the Navy and Coast Guard be made one entity?

2. Presenting a plan that can be paid for; one reason the last group never went anywhere is that they just stated their needs as though the needs existed in a vacuum. Obviously this is not true. The work of this group would have to be incorperated into the budget of my sucessor as I hope to have the budget done long before this group would conclude.

But let me step back and allow MDIA Talbott to consider to guide this discussion and chirp in when I have something of value to add.

-Dr. Jonathan Glasser
President of Eutopia

 

[Voshkod]

Mr. President, I appreciate your confidence and will gladly remain a member of this commission.

What is the nature of the treaty that permits the American base at Farpoint, and do we have a current status of forces agreement with them?

As I understand it, Farpoint is a U.S. Navy facility. We could base our ACR near Farpoint. When a war warning occur with the US, it should be able to overrun the base from the American sailor.

However, there is a more significant point here: if the Americans choose to levy their embargo against us, why are we letting them use our sovereign soil? Friendship is a two way street, after all.

As for nuclear weapons, I too agree that it is not in Eutopia's best interest to acquire them. Nonetheless, I felt the issue had to be raised.

I presume also there is an absolute ban on the acquisition of chemcial and biological weapons. What about neurological, psychotronic, sonic, and laser weapons?

 

[HJ Tulp]

Thank you Mr. President. However please note that we will need the 6 billion ducats to make it work.

I have another plan that would help regional developement, our diplomatic situation and the level of training for our forces. However it will be a unpopular move probably.

I suspect the conscription to be abolished. That means that our army will be smaller. That means less bases. We will have atleast some airforce bases and naval bases empty. Instead of building appartments in the place of the bases we could also offer them to foreign powers as bases. In return we could ask for lower prices for military hardware and asking them to train some of our military. Furthermore we could make a clause that would state that Eutopia can ask those powers to move with a 6 months in advance notice. This would bring in cash for those regions. Please state your opinion for this proposal.

Dr. Voshkod, we will have to make sure that we stay friends with the US. If we try to suprise attack Farpoint base then it will be a new Pearl Harbor. If we don't attack then our military position is helpless.

 

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We need some sort of military intelligence agency. Also, we need those special forces. They could attack enemy bases and supply convoys behind enemy lines and do other nice stuff.

 

[HJ Tulp]

I agree on Military Intelligence and Special Forces. But who should command it? Army? Navy? Airforce?