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Zireael

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Elective is good when you have all the vassals have high relations with you. Otherwise, it's pretty bad - I had a few months of scare when Iron Islanders demanded Elective in my AGOT game and only 2 people of 50-something voted for my heir. Might have been the fact that they're mostly of different religion and culture than me.
 

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In reality, primogeniture was substantially more flexible than it is in game.

Notably because, in reality, succession law was something to be followed in absence of a strong monarch or authority, i.e. just a fallback option. In practice (at least around the earliest start date), nomination of heirs would usually amount to "He'll be my heir and you WILL love him, unless you want to be painfully reminded why I am emperor and you are just a lowly nobleman. Deal with it." although it would usually be phrased somewhat differently.

Likewise, elective law in-game contains pretty much exactly that message.
 

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Have you guys never tried a elective empire where all vassals are relatives? It is so much fun when everyone is a kinslayer.
 

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Well, I run into problem. After I form empire of scandinavia, It was created gavekin. My guess it is because kingdom of sweeden start elective on min crown autority, when you can not choise lelective yet. Some how it mean that My empire start gavekin.

So, Now I have kingdoms that elective, primogenial and gavekin empire, which is painfull. I am soo huge I do not believe I will ever be able to change succession laws in empire, as some vassals will allways figth. So, how to procide? Never think I will play empire in gavekin, and I have like 7 landed sons. Should I give up on holding good counties and try to live from taxes(never used vassals taxes yet)? Should I try to hold kingdom of sweeden title and try to make in primogenial or even gavekin too? It is currently elective. What a mess...
 

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Well, I run into problem. After I form empire of scandinavia, It was created gavekin. My guess it is because kingdom of sweeden start elective on min crown autority, when you can not choise lelective yet. Some how it mean that My empire start gavekin.

So, Now I have kingdoms that elective, primogenial and gavekin empire, which is painfull. I am soo huge I do not believe I will ever be able to change succession laws in empire, as some vassals will allways figth. So, how to procide? Never think I will play empire in gavekin, and I have like 7 landed sons. Should I give up on holding good counties and try to live from taxes(never used vassals taxes yet)? Should I try to hold kingdom of sweeden title and try to make in primogenial or even gavekin too? It is currently elective. What a mess...

Dead or imprisoned vassals cant fight... Just saying :rolleyes:
 

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Why do you want your vassals to have gavelkind ? The AI is very bad at managing its own succession crisis; 2nd and 3rd sons always fight for the main title(and win most of the time I think)

Sorry for missing your reply.

True they do fight, but I still like the way Gavelkind naturally breaks up the Superdukes and I'm just going to throw in my ck2 catchphrase. If they are fighting each other, they aren't fighting me. Its a rule to live by.