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What are the best ways to get prestige and piety without having to go on crusade?

Prestige: Beat up someone who has a claim on your titles, and then let him keep the claim. Could give thousands of prestige points.

Piety: Create bishoprics
 

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Prestige: have lots of titles or vassals (dukes as a king, counts as a duke -- count vassals don't do anything for kings). You can also get a huge boost by winning a war with major warscore and not using it up (give up claims instead).

Piety: increase your church donations. You can also get a one-time boost by creating a new bishopric (but not by making a bishop an archbishop or by giving him more titles).

Keep in mind your traits may also affect these stats.
 

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It may be a bit gamey, but with a big realm I get a steady stream of piety from choosing the forgiving option from the vassal independence event. 25 piety each time (-25 prestige). The vengeful one gives the opposite.
 
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Another gamey strategy. Keep several spare Dynasty males around for the next Ruler. Once he inherits, marry in the oldest spinsters you can find. A quick total 100-200 prestige points is well worth it in some situations (FE: Sudden death of previous Ruler and the replacement isn't prepared properly yet).
 

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Prestige:

1) Have your ruler marry an old/sick/suicidical/shizophrenic bride. Wait for her to die, and re-marry. Or you can marry anyone with very low intrigue (0 to 4), kill her and re-marry. Rinse and repeat until you have enough prestige.

2) You can use the same tactic with your male relatives in your court. I use them to marry women who are old/sick/suicidical/shizophrenic but have too much Intrigue to be killed undetected.

3) Or you can use your male relatives to marry females from high-prestige kingdoms. Marry the oldest/unhealthiest females if you want your males to re-marry asap, or marry the youngest if you're happy to produce kids.

4) Turn your court into a bride factory by importing females and marrying them to all your male relatives. Marry off the daughters they produce to high-prestige kingdoms asap. Use the sons to produce more brides etc.

5) This is very gamey. Look for someone in your court with many claims against you, especially any king titles. Give him a poor provence and revoke title. When he refuses (you may need a sucky chancellor to make sure he refuses), DOW him and swim in the prestige when you negotiate peace. I've only done this once as it is game-breaking, especially once you have a decent-sized kingdom.

Piety:

1) I found Church Supremacy to be very conducive for piety. Occasionally you'll get events kicking out Moneylenders or Merchant Houses and earn an easy +25 piety.

2) Create bishoprics as others have said.
 

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5) is also somewhat game-breaking, in that i've ended up with hundreds of thousands of prestige. How? Once you take over a king title (or, say, the HRE, with 3 king titles in the bag), and vassalise the former of said kingdom... he probably won't just submit to your rule easily, but will rebel and/or declare independence eventually, and regularly.

When you force him back to the fold, you'll get the warscore from both of you having claims on one or several king titles, and if you don't force him to relinquish any, the prestige, which, as I said, can be hundreds of thousands from one war alone. There seem to be diminishing returns on this method: once you have tens of thousands of prestige already, you don't get the full war score minus peace score amount in prestige anymore, but that doesn't really matter, since i'm not aware of any difference to game mechanics if your prestige is 1000 or 100 000 or 1 000 000, as long as it's 1000 (+1% vassal loyalty, etc). Except for the game standing that determines who wins (F2).

I don't actually this that gamey until you end up doing this all the time, for generations, since it's more of a side-product of the military conquest of an entire kingdom. I guess I should force vassals like this to relinquish at least 1 king title or something each time as a role-playing rule, to eventually diminish the massive prestige gain from completely overwhelming the great-great-grandson of the triple kingdom.
 

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Prestige: When a province revolts, keep hanging traitors when the event pops up asking to give in to their demands or hang them. 25 points each time. Fun to roleplay too as an ironhanded ruler.