Presidential Dictatorship

[Garuda]

How do I change government type from a presidential dictatorship?

If it is only by successful revolution, how can I engineer one to occur and occur in my capital?

Also how do I know what sort of government a rebel rising will install?

 

[Teutonic_Knight]

I'm pretty sure you can only do it through revolution (maybe political reforms?). Just let militancy get high until rebels rise. Fascist and Communist rebels are obvious. Jacobins install a liberal democracy. Reactionaries vary I believe, and I'm not sure about Anarco-liberals.

 

[Joemit]

Reactionaries will impose a Presidential Dictatorship on a democracy, Absolute monarchy on Constitutional or Prussian. Jacobin rebels will install Constitutional on Absolute, Republic on Constitutional or anything else. Fascist will install fascist dictatorship on anything, likewise with Communist and Anarcho-Liberal.

 

[El Jojo]

You can evolve peacefully into democracy by passing reforms, you just need enough militancy to scare your upper house. Engineering a revolution is risky since you can't choose a the rebels you'll get (although you can watch in the politic screen to see which ones are growing).
Granting voting rights and franchise should trigger an event "X thaw" changing the regime

You can get reactionnary on a presidential dictatorship, pushing you into an absolute monarchy. To get jacobins you need a fairly educated population.

 

[Garuda]

You can evolve peacefully into democracy by passing reforms, you just need enough militancy to scare your upper house. [..snip]...

But as a presidential dictatorship I cannot enact any reforms at all.

 

[Mikalos]

either by sparking reactionary rebels as a democracy (so lose some wars, have a crap economy, ect. something to push them to radicalism without making them want more rights)

or use... event 60020 if you -really- want one, or it might be 60010 or 30, i forget which is which off the top of my head. one of those is the fascist and one of them is the anarcho-liberal though

(if you use the cheat though, you gotta use other events at the 180x0 level i cant remember the number of at all atm to stack in reactionaries, and some debug alwaysreform to make sure it doesnt fall right on back into democracy)

theres a event, depending on your number of reactionaries in the upper house, for an event, to naturally fire where the reactionaries lead a coup and make you rulling party only

 

[El Jojo]

But as a presidential dictatorship I cannot enact any reforms at all.

hum, I'm pretty sure you can (I've played them!), given the right amount of militancy. Militancy scares the upperhouse so each point of militancy gives you some votes towards reforms. Which country are you playing ? What is the composition of your upper house ?
Depending on the composition of your upper house, you may need up to 4 or 5 militancy to secure reforms, usually it's lower though.

 

[Herr Dak]

hum, I'm pretty sure you can (I've played them!), given the right amount of militancy. Militancy scares the upperhouse so each point of militancy gives you some votes towards reforms. Which country are you playing ? What is the composition of your upper house ?
Depending on the composition of your upper house, you may need up to 4 or 5 militancy to secure reforms, usually it's lower though.

IIRC the reactionaries will never pass any kind of reform no matter what the amount of militancy is (only conservatives can be scared). If the country has the law that only allows members of the ruling party in the upper house, passing reforms will be impossible.

 

[Garuda]

Playing as Argentina. Reactionary party in power. Reactionaries dominate the Upper House.

I allowed a rebel rising to successfully siege Buenos Ares to see what would happen. It installed a reactionary government under a presidential disctatorship; which means absolutley no change - except for the loss of my alliance with Brazil and Chile, and the loss of protection by the USA as I dropped out of their sphere. The very next day Bolivia dowed me. Allowing the revolution to succeed did me no favours at all. o

 

[Andrelvis]

IIRC the reactionaries will never pass any kind of reform no matter what the amount of militancy is (only conservatives can be scared). If the country has the law that only allows members of the ruling party in the upper house, passing reforms will be impossible.

Yes. I would mod it so presidential dictatorships also allow a conservative party to be put in charge.

 

[JoeyB2198]

There are events which raise liberal representation by 20%, regardless of gov't type. However, they are few and far between so I wouldn't count on them.

 

[El Jojo]

IIRC the reactionaries will never pass any kind of reform no matter what the amount of militancy is (only conservatives can be scared). If the country has the law that only allows members of the ruling party in the upper house, passing reforms will be impossible.

It's a very rare combination (Presidential dictatorship and ruling party only), I'm even wondering if it exists at the starting date (not that many Pres. dictatorship)

In the case of Argentina, even if reactionnaries start strong in the upper house they do decline and there's enough conservatives to push for reforms. Waiting for revolutions is random and can take so long, it's more of an opportunity to jump on if you see jacobins rebels than something to expect (at least early).
OP, you should be able to see what the rebels want when they rise, you don't have to let them take the capitol to discover it.

 

[Lemont Elwood]

Yes. I would mod it so presidential dictatorships also allow a conservative party to be put in charge.

I don't think it would be unreasonable for all dictatorships to allow their moderate forms (Conservatives for Presidential, Conservatives for Fascist, Liberal for Bourgeoisie, Socialist for Proletarian) to have representation. That way there would be mechanics for dictatorships to thaw if they were in a bad position.

 

[Liborio]

Playing as Argentina. Reactionary party in power. Reactionaries dominate the Upper House.

I allowed a rebel rising to successfully siege Buenos Ares to see what would happen. It installed a reactionary government under a presidential disctatorship; which means absolutley no change - except for the loss of my alliance with Brazil and Chile, and the loss of protection by the USA as I dropped out of their sphere. The very next day Bolivia dowed me. Allowing the revolution to succeed did me no favours at all. o

Allow jacobin rebels, not reactionary rebels.

EDIT: As a response to your first post:

Jacobin Rebels - Install democracy or HM's government (if you are an absolute monarchy/prussian constitutionalism).
Reactionary Rebels - Install presidencial dictatorship (if you are a democracy or a fascist/proletarian/bourgeois dictatorship) or absolute monarchy (if you are a monarchy). If you already are a presidential dictatorship it may turn you into an absolute monarchy (can't remember if the opposite can also happen). If you are in the process of westernization, this type of rebels will also roll back westernization reforms.
Anarcho-Liberal Rebels - Install bourgeois dictatorship.
Communist Rebels - Install proletarian dictatorship.
Fascist Rebels - Install fascist dictatorship.

Also, in unmodded V2 a revolution means you lose all of your sphere and alliances.

I think that's all, apologies if i forgot something.