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This might also be interesting. Check the tooltip of the naval invasion plan...

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Looks good to need preparation time / countdown to perform an Invasion!!!!
Hopefully this time is based on the number and type of divisions choosen for the Invasion. The more or heavier divisions choosen, the longer it takes to prepare.
 
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That is very neat. It will prevent those landings where you just sneak in a few divisions somewhere. This means that every naval landing is a real plan, a commitment of forces.
 
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A big +1 for needing time to prepare naval invasions :). I'm a little sad that amphibious warfare ships (the largest type of warship built during WW2 by tonnage) look to have been abstracted into doctrine (from what we've seen - this is uncomfirmed, but by the look of it 'transports' are just convoy ships, which if true would be more than a little sad, but too early to be sad yet), but the planning thing for invasions is tops.
 
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"Infrior enemy 100%"
"The plan is considered to be to our advantage"

Yeah, right.. this plan was to smugle 2-3 divisions from France to England by boat nimbling through 135 british naval vessels on patrol....

The above statements must be for the british landforces not for the sea.
 
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A big +1 for needing time to prepare naval invasions :). I'm a little sad that amphibious warfare ships (the largest type of warship built during WW2 by tonnage) look to have been abstracted into doctrine (from what we've seen - this is uncomfirmed, but by the look of it 'transports' are just convoy ships, which if true would be more than a little sad, but too early to be sad yet), but the planning thing for invasions is tops.

Better transport ships are incluced in tech research. Daniel briefly touched on them during www, 5th video.
 
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Better transport ships are incluced in tech research. Daniel briefly touched on them during www, 5th video.

Aye, but we saw a brief glimpse of the 'transport' section of the tech tree and it was all doctrines, rather than actual equipment that was built. As I said above, still too early to be sure, but it looks like (although this isn't confirmed, and I could be wrong) we just build convoys, and if we research the right tech they turn into LSTs, LSIs, APAs, LCAs and the like on demand.
 

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No, transport ship also appears in the Naval Tech tree, just under the submarines tree.

But it's not treated as seperate ship unit, just as convoys
 
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I don't know why English Channel has 3 huge sea provinces between France and Briton island. It is a very close area, a very narrow channel where there are some points that you can visibly see the other side.

What is the point of making it arbitrarily huge?
 
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I'm pretty sure the developers have repeatedly said to stop an invasion force "sneaking" across the channel before any opposing naval forces can react. Which was incredibly easy to do in HoI2 and 3 and negated the need for Germany to build a proper navy to invade the British Isles.
 
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I don't know why English Channel has 3 huge sea provinces between France and Briton island. It is a very close area, a very narrow channel where there are some points that you can visibly see the other side.

What is the point of making it arbitrarily huge?

That was discussed to death in another thread.
 
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"Infrior enemy 100%"
"The plan is considered to be to our advantage"

Yeah, right.. this plan was to smugle 2-3 divisions from France to England by boat nimbling through 135 british naval vessels on patrol....

The above statements must be for the british landforces not for the sea.

Indeed and that's why it says the Germans doesn't have naval supremacy in the Channel (or even intel enough).
 

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Daniels plan was to sneak one submarine in for 7 days to get enough Intel. Exploit?
Eh, I am absolutely certain he said "I will get a moment of navel supremacy". Think he said it more that once. Now that is an exploit.
 
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Daniels plan was to sneak one submarine in for 7 days to get enough Intel. Exploit?
Eh, I am absolutely certain he said "I will get a moment of navel supremacy". Think he said it more that once. Now that is an exploit.
Just intel alone probably won't give the naval supremacy unless the Brits decide to send the RN on vacation. Trying to sneak a couple of divisions across the channel is a good and valid tactic IMO but insanely risky in case the RN decides to show up sinking the precious divisions that hasn't disembarked yet and trapping the rest with no supply.
Beating the RAF and then keeping the RN out of the channel by airpower and aiding the landings with just lighter surface combatants and submarines were the original prerequisites for Seelöwe so it doesn't seem exploity at all, just very difficult.
 
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"Division still preparing"
"Some divisions not in position"

I find this fairly interesting, has it been discussed what land preparations are required before mounting a seaborne invasion? On the one hand I like the idea of preventing the AI from mounting dozens of 1-3 division invasions but on the other it has to be capable of handling the more complex system.
 
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