Prepared Invasion Nerfed?

[sezar5]

Hey Guys! I am pretty new in CK2 and it`s the first time I have been playing as a Norse. I started the game as Ragnar`s Father and pretty quickly managed to unite all Sweden. Then vikings age kicked out and I began the prepared invasion to Northhumria. The problem is the event spawn troops were so few compared to enemy Nothhumria and all his allys which are pretty much all England. They have approximately 13k troops but the preparation phase only gave me 3k troops.Plus, it is really frusturating to my ally tribal vassal cant manage to embark their troops which they are 10k. By the way, I intentionally keep down my realm size under to 50 in order to make the cb valid. Am i doing something wrong? Thanks.

 

[junassa]

IIRC the variables that determine the number of event troops are:

1. Both your diplo and martial (you'd want over 15 in both)
2. The relative strength between you and your target. I'm guessing since Northhumria by itself is both a smaller realm and have lesser troops than you. If you had gone after a bigger target you'd get more troops.

 

[Woifee]

Also the more troops you can recruit the more you get. So use prestige and gold to build stuff.

https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Casus_Belli

 

[sezar5]

There are nearly 20k troops in the isles. I have only totaly 7k. Stupid vassal could not even manage to embark here. What I am supposed to do?

 

[Castimirr]

You have to work to maximize how many troops the event spawns.

You can also send in retinues to do raiding before the war starts. (If you do some raiding ahead of time you could possibly use cheap mercenaries for this too, but that can take good cash.) Pull them back to your ships, declare war, then land the troops again and use them to keep the defenders from getting their armies consolidated while you move your levies and event troops over.

(If you are using mercenaries disband them as soon as your other troops can handle things.)

 

[sezar5]

I am sorry but there is no way that I could get 10k event spawn troops no matter what.

 

[Woifee]

If you would wait another decade or 2 you can get 20 k demense troops and another 10 k event troops. Wit a little livh you also get troops from your councilors.

The easier target may be francia tough. Your allies will do a better job there.

 

[sezar5]

The problem is the prepared invasion cb requires at most 50 holdings, unfortunately. I would love to wait and grow for some decades but once you pass 50 holdings you basically lose prepared invasion cb.

 

[Woifee]

You just can stop expanding or give titles away brfore you prepare an invasion.

 

[makaramus]

prepared invasion cannot give you land out of thin air. its not very strong aganist locations that got too much of army
first of all your diplo point is only 3... this reduces amount of troop you can have
also if enemy got double of your army speed of recruitments slow down to half. if enemy 4 times larger it reduces to 1/4 and anything furher stops recruits.
I recently did play as jyland at age of vikings started invasion to england 2 times, formed england and ireland, gave ireland to my brother (and half of england) started invasion to netherlands and settled there (hre was weak when I did)
at my last invasion I had 23 martial 30 diplo. made me able to muster 25k (maybe 30 k not sure) troops before I use cb. enemy only had 5k (too much rebellion fight in hre)