You can. Prepare for War costs favour, not trust. Even if it did cost trust, you could then simply spend some favours to increase their trust after asking them to prepare.
Prepare for War & Favours
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Well on the bright side i fought a huge war against them, kicking out spain as an ally (that also owns half of france) and gained some territory, only for them to ally Austria and cockblock me again. Yay! In total a standing <- army of 180k commonwealth people and another 80k spaniards defeated in the mid 1600s. The plan was to rid them of hes ally so theres a better chance to actually get the baltic coastline.
I think the snowball became too big in this game!
I think the snowball became too big in this game!
Sweden has very powerful NIs, and coupled with some military NIs, tend to roll over Poland easily. What are your idea group picks?
I would say, overall, taking on Poland and Muskowy early is best for Sweden, 1500-or so is just about right.
I would say, overall, taking on Poland and Muskowy early is best for Sweden, 1500-or so is just about right.
I'm not sure whether this -60 modifier you liking another country applies when the AI pulls you into a war... I've had some "Ok, I'm not allied to Poland but we are best friends (>100 rep each). Why the hell do you pull me into a direct offensive war with Poland"...
You'd have to set your stance towards Poland as Friendly, since it's the stance that produces the -60 attitude modifier. High relations indirectly produces the -50 accepting would destablise the nation modifier.
Not sure if the stance affects the AI's consideration of whether or not you want war correctly. To be honest, I tend to be rather lazy and not set my stances.
So they all like Poland, two of them have a Truce with Poland and the other does not Trust you, to top it off you have Negative Diplomatic Rep.
Why should they join that war again?
Why should they join that war again?
Im not surprised. The Commonweatlh is basically rigged to be friends with people who should hate it like Austria. I have even seen Comonweath rival Ming rather than Austria which they were not allied with.
In my Trebizond game it was easy finiding allies to kill Otttos eventually. However there was litterally no one powerful enogh to rival Commonwealth that I could ally. There needs to be more Commonwealth hate in Europe.
Attitude towards enemies for me too lol, Especially Austria-Commonwealth love. They kill Muscovy, who does that even leave to team up vs them??
In my Trebizond game it was easy finiding allies to kill Otttos eventually. However there was litterally no one powerful enogh to rival Commonwealth that I could ally. There needs to be more Commonwealth hate in Europe.
Attitude towards enemies for me too lol, Especially Austria-Commonwealth love. They kill Muscovy, who does that even leave to team up vs them??
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Given that the default attitude setting is to have "manually manage attitude" unchecked, you don't necessarily have to actively set your attitude as friendly in order to be friendly towards them.
Makes perfect sense. They like Poland and two of them either have a truce with them or a royal marriage or something that would cause them a stabhit.
Is there an alternative though? Who are Polands allies? Could you declare on them and call your allies in and therefore still get them to help against Poland albeit as a secondary target rather than the main enemy?
Is there an alternative though? Who are Polands allies? Could you declare on them and call your allies in and therefore still get them to help against Poland albeit as a secondary target rather than the main enemy?
The -60 attitude modifier is an old one, so having the Cossacks doesn't matter when it comes to calling the AI in. Cossacks just allows you to actually set your stance on the AI nations, instead of being an inscrutable question mark.
Truces double dip on the reasons to not war, even though the -1000 is more than enough; they also get -250 for would destablise the nation. Military access I don't believe gives any modifier, but a -40 attitude towards enemy would be because the ally feels threatened by the enemy.
Good point, though then the system is liable to put you on Domineering or leave you on Neutral. Could even leave you on Unknown. Or it has you on Friendly except for that one month where it switches you to Neutral, which your allies immediately notice and start that war
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Breaking rm is -1...The -60 attitude modifier is an old one, so having the Cossacks doesn't matter when it comes to calling the AI in. Cossacks just allows you to actually set your stance on the AI nations, instead of being an inscrutable question mark.
Truces double dip on the reasons to not war, even though the -1000 is more than enough; they also get -250 for would destablise the nation. Military access I don't believe gives any modifier, but a -40 attitude towards enemy would be because the ally feels threatened by the enemy.
Good point, though then the system is liable to put you on Domineering or leave you on Neutral. Could even leave you on Unknown. Or it has you on Friendly except for that one month where it switches you to Neutral, which your allies immediately notice and start that war
Unless it's changed, it's -50 for each point of stability they'd lose. Since breaking a RM is normally -3 stability, it's generally -150. Not sure if the ally having full Diplomatic Ideas cuts it down to -50 or not. Like Gartak pointed out, there's no truce, as that would have a -1000 modifier labelled as such.
Ahh yes, right you are. For some reason I was thinking of the No CB stab hits.
I know that. I'm just arguing that since I cannot set my stance manually without cossacks, I seem to be unable to give the AI that -60 penalty for when they call me in.
Military access should give a modifier. At least it DID give in 1.13. (played a non-ironman game back then and edited the save-file removing military access my ally had with the target I wanted to attack and suddently this modifier was gone). And I do not think I saw a change in that in any patch notes.
For truce breaking, iirc Diplomatic drops the stab hit to three. For declaring a No CB war, it's -3 stability without diplomatic, -1 with diplomatic.
Yeah mixed up words truce breaking for no cb it's -2 though
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Right you are again. I should start declaring more No CB wars when I lack diplomatic ideas, clearly I'm not 100% clear on the penalties