preorder dlc. yay

[aprince]

so is paradox going to route simcity5 was suppose to - the nickle and dime ya to death approach. i already see preorder dlc for bogus assets. so i take it basketball courts arent standard assets.

day one dlc for bogus content... a basketball court .99 cents - cha-ching

yay.

 

[TotalyMoo]

It's called a pre order incentive and is pretty standard conduct to give an extra, smaller, bonus to people who buy early

 

[Hackner]

No one or anything is forcing me to expend more money. I see nothing wrong.

 

[anandus]

so is paradox going to [...]

I'm guessing you're new to Paradox? They are the king of DLC.

(And I'll be buying it all probably )

 

[aprince]

It's called a pre order incentive and is pretty standard conduct to give an extra, smaller, bonus to people who buy early

its cool. to each their own. i get it, the monument packs, a total of say 20 different with 5 items will be 4.99 each.

this tactic would have been the down fall of sc5 if the actual game was decent. the french pack the german pack the blah blah blah.

 

[Person012345]

It has always been, as stated from day 1, the plan to focus on building a solid base game (which is intended to be relatively reasonably priced) and then following the PDS model of release regular paid and free content updates. If you don't like that maybe you should have taken issue with it earlier.As long as the DLC doesn't run into the multiple hundreds of dollars for real mechanical DLC then it's not really the same as what EA do.

 

[Jokurr]

They did the same thing with CiM2. Shouldn't be a surprise.

 

[vinolik]

It's called a pre order incentive and is pretty standard conduct to give an extra, smaller, bonus to people who buy early

Will it be available later separately?

 

[aprince]

I'm guessing you're new to Paradox? They are the king of DLC.

actually im not.. its just the same tactic sc5 was trying to pull off but the game itself failed before they could fully employ this approach. the game had so much negativity, this would have completely killed it at the very start. thus the free nissan leaf etc.

i get extra content/addon may cost, but monuments and parks that have been "core" elements of the genre, something paradox is claiming to be targeting shouldnt be.

 

[TotalyMoo]

actually im not.. its just the same tactic sc5 was trying to pull off but the game itself failed before they could fully employ this approach. the game had so much negativity, this would have completely killed it at the very start. thus the free nissan leaf etc.

i get extra content/addon may cost, but monuments and parks that have been "core" elements of the genre, something paradox is claiming to be targeting shouldnt be.

There are loads in game too, this is simply an extra incentive we've put more developing funds to create and add as a bonus.

So it's not stuff we've pulled from the core game just to offer, it's the other way around

 

[aprince]

There are loads in game too, this is simply an extra incentive we've put more developing funds to create and add as a bonus.

So it's not stuff we've pulled from the core game just to offer, it's the other way around

You do pr for paradox, its cool, you dont have to sell me. I use to be apart of the industry, i get it.

However, I know from personally experience, that paradox is going to put off people with this tactic, especially in the city builder community. My friend is ranting to me ask I type this. He says he is going to mod every single piece of dlc you make. More power to you and him i suppose.

I know this tactic has already deflated my desire some. Now I'll just take the wait and see approach, instead of just jumping on board.

Im all for paying for "true" expansions. But eh. Goodluck regardless, i hope the game does well

 

[TotalyMoo]

You do pr for paradox, its cool, you dont have to sell me. I use to be apart of the industry, i get it.

However, I know from personally experience, that paradox is going to put off people with this tactic, especially in the city builder community. My friend is ranting to me ask I type this. He says he is going to mod every single piece of dlc you make. More power to you and him i suppose.

I know this tactic has already deflated my desire some. Now I'll just take the wait and see approach, instead of just jumping on board.

Im all for paying for "true" expansions. But eh. Goodluck regardless, i hope the game does well

You're of course at liberty to have your opinion, I just think you're a bit too fast to distrust.

We know we can't compete with modders when it comes to buildings. Thinking something else would be silly. That doesn't mean we can't contribute to the bunch

 

[Mav12]

When I saw the landmarks preorder I thought why? When modern will probably make them anyway ( say the Statue of Liberty; what's to stop stop someone from making there own modle for those not getting deluxe?



aside I'll still try to get the Deluxe Edition because Paradox Interactive and associated companies are trustworthy to me

 

[TotalyMoo]

When I saw the landmarks preorder I thought why? When modern will probably make them anyway ( say the Statue of Liberty; what's to stop stop someone from making there own modle for those not getting deluxe?



aside I'll still try to get the Deluxe Edition because Paradox Interactive and associated companies are trustworthy to me

Nothing stops modders from recreating all our assets. We're not in the market to compete with them

 

[aprince]

You're of course at liberty to have your opinion, I just think you're a bit too fast to distrust.

We know we can't compete with modders when it comes to buildings. Thinking something else would be silly. That doesn't mean we can't contribute to the bunch

Look, this is just my opinion as you say, but man let me tell you something.

Paradox says they dont have enough staff to build more assets (something along the line as ea/maxis has more staff building buildings than paradox has total), so basically we the fans have to deal with repetitive buildings for now. Yet, you guys already have the Gaul to offer assets as DLC bonuses already. We the people know where this is going.

Owell though, way to take a swing at EA/Maxis..... this is your chance to take their spot and you wanna use a model they have, that people dislike. As i said, more power to you.

it almost smells like ea/maxis or their formers are a silent partner in all of this.

Thats all i have to say. Like, i said, i hope you guys do well. cheers

 

[Person012345]

You're of course at liberty to have your opinion, I just think you're a bit too fast to distrust.

We know we can't compete with modders when it comes to buildings. Thinking something else would be silly. That doesn't mean we can't contribute to the bunch

And remember, some of us don't use mods, so any extra content you create and actually test will be appreciated.

 

[TotalyMoo]

And remember, some of us don't use mods, so any extra content you create and actually test will be appreciated.

We'll see what happens post release. I, personally, think it's most plausible we work heavily on more functionality

 

[Person012345]

Look, this is just my opinion as you say, but man let me tell you something.

Paradox says they dont have enough staff to build more assets (something along the line as ea/maxis has more staff building buildings than paradox has total), so basically we the fans have to deal with repetitive buildings for now. Yet, you guys already have the Gaul to offer assets as DLC bonuses already. We the people know where this is going.

Owell though, way to take a swing at EA/Maxis..... this is your chance to take their spot and you wanna use a model they have, that people dislike. As i said, more power to you.

it almost smells like ea/maxis or their formers are a silent partner in all of this.

Thats all i have to say. Like, i said, i hope you guys do well. cheers

Why don't you play the game before you judge the bonus content. If it's genuinely lacking in core features that are then whored out as DLC, we'll all be on board. But you're way pre-judging this, if it's just eye candy then... Well, I'm not exactly a fan of Day-1 DLC, but it's not that egregious an offence.

 

[TotalyMoo]

Just putting out a notice here that I would like you all to respect individual opinions. I expect to see no flame or insults towards aprince, or any other poster that might share his opinion, in this thread or anywhere else.

Carry on

 

[aerosnake]

I agree on one thing, a basketball court should be a standard game asset.