Precursor - why different bonus? you want First league

[AlknicTeos]

Seems I had luck with 2 times fen habbanis in 2 games. It's an awesome 25 size arcology planet, that clearly beat each other outcome of the precursor ... but in my current game I always get Yuhtaan, a dead system with some indeed awesome orbital stations for ressources, but honestly I want Fen Habbanis. There seems to be also a map where which outcome is placed https://www.reddit.com/r/Stellaris/comments/a56xnd/precursor_locations_mapped/ . I'm not going to accept this difference ... let's see if i can make a small mini mod, which solves this "problem".

 

[AlknicTeos]

is nobody interested in a "solution" to get Fen Habbanis, or aren't you that aware about the different precursor events?

 

[Ariphaos]

I've written a mod for this myself.

Ultimately though, they all need stuff to make them interesting. Though I don't personally believe 'give them megastructures' is the answer to all of the others.

 

[The Boz]

Each race should have an "ancient legends" choice in the creation menu. You choose your precursor there. Not random.

 

[stavern]

Any know why first league collapsed? The other precursors it is said why they were wiped out. Cybrex who got bored killing all organics and retreated to their ringworld and wiped out later. Those that died from a plague. Or commited mass suicide. But no mention of first league collapse. You find homeworld of this and that species. Naval base. Prison planet. My guess is that it collapsed because of infighting. There is a mention that they colonized a planet with all species living together in harmony. It was abandoned because of wars between the different species. This caused the collapse i Guess. Anyone who knows?

 

[SpectralShade]

Any know why first league collapsed? The other precursors it is said why they were wiped out. Cybrex who got bored killing all organics and retreated to their ringworld and wiped out later. Those that died from a plague. Or commited mass suicide. But no mention of first league collapse. You find homeworld of this and that species. Naval base. Prison planet. My guess is that it collapsed because of infighting. There is a mention that they colonized a planet with all species living together in harmony. It was abandoned because of wars between the different species. This caused the collapse i Guess. Anyone who knows?

they made the mistake of letting the AI handle their economy..

*Badum tisch....*

 

[AlknicTeos]

I've written a mod for this myself.

Ultimately though, they all need stuff to make them interesting. Though I don't personally believe 'give them megastructures' is the answer to all of the others.

I have also written a small mini mod now, which just simply change the prescripted_species_systems, that all of those 5 possibilies end with a fen habbanis system.

Each race should have an "ancient legends" choice in the creation menu. You choose your precursor there. Not random.

i find this a very good idea

 

[Peter34]

is nobody interested in a "solution" to get Fen Habbanis, or aren't you that aware about the different precursor events?

I’m keen on a solution that doesn’t screw over MP games.

 

[Foxador]

Any know why first league collapsed? The other precursors it is said why they were wiped out. Cybrex who got bored killing all organics and retreated to their ringworld and wiped out later. Those that died from a plague. Or commited mass suicide. But no mention of first league collapse. You find homeworld of this and that species. Naval base. Prison planet. My guess is that it collapsed because of infighting. There is a mention that they colonized a planet with all species living together in harmony. It was abandoned because of wars between the different species. This caused the collapse i Guess. Anyone who knows?

They relied on their vassals and stuff to get them food but the league broke down and they all starved is pretty much the story.

 

[Ramiel]

So I have to disagree with the central premise. Yeah the First League chain is probably the best, but it's not the end-all-be-all, and others are great too. For some games you may actually want a ringworld or something instead. And even if it is the undisputed best - why would you want the absolute best every single game? Do you play every game with the exact same empire, the exact same civics, every single time, always picking the absolute best options? Variety is the spice of life.

 

[Promethian]

I'm the opposite. A single ecumenopolis is really all you need. Especially if its size 25. Getting first league essentially provides the full benefit of an entire ascension perk. I stopped using cheat codes on my nintendo when I was 10. Massive advantages from minimal to no effort make things boring.

 

[BlackUmbrellas]

Yeah, no. Its a nice bonus if you spawn in that quadrant, but otherwise I don't really care if I have to do the work myself.

Its kind of OP, honestly, considering that you need to at least wait to roll the Mega-Engineering tech with Cybrex Alpha to repair it (whereas Fen Habbanis can be colonized and cleared from the moment you find it).

 

[wingren013]

I think Fen-Habbanis could use some tile blockers that require advanced tech to remove. It's just too good to have a fully functional ecumenopolis that early.

 

[Peter34]

So I have to disagree with the central premise. Yeah the First League chain is probably the best, but it's not the end-all-be-all, and others are great too. For some games you may actually want a ringworld or something instead. And even if it is the undisputed best - why would you want the absolute best every single game? Do you play every game with the exact same empire, the exact same civics, every single time, always picking the absolute best options? Variety is the spice of life.

I just want the other 3 Precursors to get *some* kind of buff.

 

[Peter34]

Yeah, no. Its a nice bonus if you spawn in that quadrant, but otherwise I don't really care if I have to do the work myself.

Its kind of OP, honestly, considering that you need to at least wait to roll the Mega-Engineering tech with Cybrex Alpha to repair it (whereas Fen Habbanis can be colonized and cleared from the moment you find it).

On the other hand, just grabbing the Cybrex home system gives you a x20 draw change for Mega-Engineering.

 

[heliostellar]

I disagree that you always should want the First League (i.e. lower right quadrant). In my Hive Mind games, I would argue that the Ring World (i.e. Cybrex/lower left quadrant) is superior, because the only thing that the hive minds can build on Ecumenopoli are alloy districts. At least a Ring World is 4 x 25 Gaia level production capability.