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You can preorder a game that was never shown except for a short 2 minute gameplay video or you can preorder a game with a stream of 6+ hours of actual gameplay with nightly builds months before launch day.
This is the real difference.
 
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why does it bother you so much
It doesn't bother me at all. You do what you want, I was just generally curious as I never saw the point.
 
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The hysteria and shady practices surrounding preorders is really disturbing, that's why. It's serves as a vehicle for exploitative anti-consumer practices.

Absolutely, but even without preorders sellers are shady, I have heard of particular devs putting up prices for sales so it retains full price on sale.
 

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It doesn't bother me at all. You do what you want, I was just generally curious as I never saw the point.

I'm gonna buy it anyway, so what's the point of NOT preordering it?

Besides pre orders usually come with bonuses. (EU4 pre order gave a copy of CK2 for example)
 
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It is one of those questions that if asked cannot really be answered. Either you know why we want to pre-order or you don't, we cannot explain it to you anymore than why the sky is blue.
refraction of light is the latter
 

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If only the pre-order was $35 or less (I know it'll probably be $40 knowing my luck/prevoius prices), that's the only non-physical cash I have in the form of a $50 gift card after spending $15 on Mare Nostrum
 

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If only the pre-order was $35 or less (I know it'll probably be $40 knowing my luck/prevoius prices), that's the only non-physical cash I have in the form of a $50 gift card after spending $15 on Mare Nostrum

Hopefully, we'll get some sort of loyalty discount for preordering, or something similar.
 
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Hopefully, we'll get some sort of loyalty discount for preordering, or something similar.

If there's a decent discount I'll likely preorder, since I intend to buy day one anyway and might as well save some cash. With Steam refunds I can still cancel up until 2 hours played.

If there's no discount I'll hold off on buying until launch day, due to my objection to pre-order systems.
 
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Hopefully, we'll get some sort of loyalty discount for preordering, or something similar.
Paradox should have loyal customer discounts for something like owns X number of forum icons or owns an/all main GSG games or forum member for X years, they also already occasionally give games for free in there newsletter, why not special discounts in them to?
 

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The hysteria and shady practices surrounding preorders is really disturbing, that's why. It's serves as a vehicle for exploitative anti-consumer practices.


I think it's important to divorce the shady practices from the pre order itself. Not all Preorders are bad, just as not all Kickstarters are good. While I agree with you that all to often we see pre-order bullshit going on, I've not see any of that here. I don;t need a spreadsheet to figure out where I'm going to buy this game, I'm not having to buy it 3 times (from different stores) to get all the content, and the game isn't being sold as a 2 hour bare-bones experances that meant to be a platform for DLC sales.
 
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From the Paradox twitch-page:



So, they start at 17:00 with a two hour stream and something, they will reveal on stream ... the stream ends at exactly 19:00 Stockholm time. Exactly the same time, steam updates it's shop ...

Think about it! ;)

#ILoveConspiracyTheories

sounds legit but why do the DLC's come outh earlier ?
 
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I'm not a fan of swag at all. You can keep the caps or t-shirts. If I want one of those, I'll buy them separately.

I'll take bonus in game content (including aesthetic/cosmetic) any day of the week.
 
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Yeps give me some in game stuff please don't need no discount or anything, ideally would be nice to get some cosmetic stuff that you can't buy later on just to show you are an early supporter. Unique ship skins would be pretty sweet if i could pick anything.