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So it wont be coming in a disk form? Does that no make it easier for people just to make iso files for people to play as? :( I like having the game in a disk. :(

Are you talking about piracy? If so it won't make any difference either way. Only games that are primarily multiplayer have shown any real resistance to being cracked, and then only by requiring that they be played through certain servers. Also, ISO is a disk image format. I don't see any reason why a game released digitally would be released as an ISO, legally or otherwise.

I think they are releasing it as digital distribution only because it is cheaper. I also suspect they are looking forward to the number of sales made through Gamers Gate, a service I believe they are affiliated with. I couldn't say for sure though. I know I certainly wouldn't mind paying a couple bucks more for a disk, but that isn't their plan.
 

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There is a chance there might be some sort of EU:Gold some time down the line such as say 6-9 months. Which is a hard copy with the game and the 3 expansions but I would personally rather get it online now than wait.
 

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No hardcopies? Is that confirmed, as that pretty much means no HTTT for me... :(

Agreed... No credit card. :(

Are you talking about piracy? If so it won't make any difference either way. Only games that are primarily multiplayer have shown any real resistance to being cracked, and then only by requiring that they be played through certain servers. Also, ISO is a disk image format. I don't see any reason why a game released digitally would be released as an ISO, legally or otherwise.

I think they are releasing it as digital distribution only because it is cheaper. I also suspect they are looking forward to the number of sales made through Gamers Gate, a service I believe they are affiliated with. I couldn't say for sure though. I know I certainly wouldn't mind paying a couple bucks more for a disk, but that isn't their plan.

Let me rephrase it, does that mean it will be released as an iso, instead of a disk? Which form your answer, I understand is a yes. Is there a way around not having a credfit card, and being able to get the game? (I am only 17, no credit card for me) I do have steam, but to get games on it, I must pay by credit card. Does anyone know of a way aound this?
 

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Let me rephrase it, does that mean it will be released as an iso, instead of a disk? Which form your answer, I understand is a yes. Is there a way around not having a credfit card, and being able to get the game? (I am only 17, no credit card for me) I do have steam, but to get games on it, I must pay by credit card. Does anyone know of a way aound this?

In Paypal you may transfer money from a bank acount to your paypal acount, then pay with it (don't know if Steam allows paypal payment).
 

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In Paypal you may transfer money from a bank acount to your paypal acount, then pay with it (don't know if Steam allows paypal payment).

Man, you are my hero. Do you need a credit card to apply for Paypal? Also, does the website that it will be sold on, accept Paypal payments? Thank you so much for your help! :)
 

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Let me rephrase it, does that mean it will be released as an iso, instead of a disk? Which form your answer, I understand is a yes. Is there a way around not having a credfit card, and being able to get the game? (I am only 17, no credit card for me) I do have steam, but to get games on it, I must pay by credit card. Does anyone know of a way aound this?

Ok, I'm not sure I understand you. I'm almost positive you don't understand me. An ISO file is a type of disk image. The game is not being released on disk. No disk = no disk image. Again, the game will almost certainly NOT be released as an ISO. You see games online in ISO format when they are pirated copies of games released originally on a disk. Rarely are games put up online in ISO format legally. I'll admit I've never used Gamers Gate before, so for all I know they defy logic and use the format. I really doubt it, but I'll admit I have no way of knowing.

Also, I see no way you would be able to buy this game without something like a credit card. I seriously doubt it will find its way into many stores, even if it is released on disk at some point. That's probably a big part of why they are only releasing it as a download; why create a disk when people are going to have to buy online anyway? I would have, but I suspect many people don't see the point.
 

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Ok, I'm not sure I understand you. I'm almost positive you don't understand me. An ISO file is a type of disk image. The game is not being released on disk. No disk = no disk image. Again, the game will almost certainly NOT be released as an ISO. You see games online in ISO format when they are pirated copies of games released originally on a disk. Rarely are games put up online in ISO format legally. I'll admit I've never used Gamers Gate before, so for all I know they defy logic and use the format. I really doubt it, but I'll admit I have no way of knowing.

Also, I see no way you would be able to buy this game without something like a credit card. I seriously doubt it will find its way into many stores, even if it is released on disk at some point. That's probably a big part of why they are only releasing it as a download; why create a disk when people are going to have to buy online anyway? I would have, but I suspect many people don't see the point.

Ahh, I see. I understand now. :p I always read an iso as something silly like, just being able to play the game without a disk or something like that. My friend uses something like Daemeon tools? Which is able to read iso's. So I just assumed an iso was the data of the game, without requiring the disk or something.

Thanks for the clarification! Seems like I have some computer terminology to learn. ;)
 

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Man, you are my hero. Do you need a credit card to apply for Paypal? Also, does the website that it will be sold on, accept Paypal payments? Thank you so much for your help! :)
At least my bank account works with paypal without having a credit card. And yes, you can buy from Gamers Gate through paypal.
 

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Ahh, I see. I understand now. :p I always read an iso as something silly like, just being able to play the game without a disk or something like that. My friend uses something like Daemeon tools? Which is able to read iso's. So I just assumed an iso was the data of the game, without requiring the disk or something.

Thanks for the clarification! Seems like I have some computer terminology to learn. ;)

Well, it pretty much is, but something that doesn't require a disk to be read from a disk drive, virtual or otherwise, wouldn't need an Iso I guess? I assume it'd just be a rar file you'd download or something, but I doubt it'll be cracked.
 

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Also, I see no way you would be able to buy this game without something like a credit card.

Dude, it was just explained above. I've got all my GamersGate games off of PayPal, which is not a credit card. Things like eBay also use PayPal. It is safe and easy.

Plus, EU3 Complete can be bought over eBay and Amazon, and it is a widely held assumption that they will make a new type of Complete for HT.
 

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Dude, it was just explained above. I've got all my GamersGate games off of PayPal, which is not a credit card. Things like eBay also use PayPal. It is safe and easy.

Plus, EU3 Complete can be bought over eBay and Amazon, and it is a widely held assumption that they will make a new type of Complete for HT.

You guys have just made my day. :) Thank you all very much for everything! :)
 

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Dude, it was just explained above. I've got all my GamersGate games off of PayPal, which is not a credit card. Things like eBay also use PayPal. It is safe and easy.

Plus, EU3 Complete can be bought over eBay and Amazon, and it is a widely held assumption that they will make a new type of Complete for HT.


Dude, I didn't contradict anyone. A possible boxed version seemed to be suggested as a solution to his problem. I didn't dispute that there might be a boxed version, just that it would likely (imo) not reach many stores. Meaning he'd have to buy online anyway. Meaning he'd have the exact same payment options. Meaning he'd have to pay with something "like" a credit care, which I've always considered PayPal to be. After all, you need either a credit card or a bank account to use PayPal, don't you? (Truthfully that question isn't entirely rhetorical, as I always just use a credit card when I use PayPay. I know PayPal has other payment option, but I'm a bit hazy on what they are.) That was all I meant when I said he would still need something "like" a credit card.

I probably hadn't even read the post before mine when I started typing, as I was paying more attention to Hulu than I was to composing my post quickly. If I had I likely would have mentioned PayPal specifically as an option. It wouldn't have changed the meaning much though, as it really wasn't what I was getting at. I was just warning him that a boxed version might not give him any new payment options.

So I think it's great if PayPay is a workable option for him. I really wasn't suggesting otherwise.


-edit: added the last line just to make sure it is now absolutely crystal clear that I'm not nixing PayPal as an option. I'm not familiar with all of PayPal's payment methods, and I don't know what he has access to.
 
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Dude, I didn't contradict anyone. A possible boxed version seemed to be suggested as a solution to his problem. I didn't dispute that there might be a boxed version, just that it would likely (imo) not reach many stores. Meaning he'd have to buy online anyway. Meaning he'd have the exact same payment options. Meaning he'd have to pay with something "like" a credit care, which I've always considered PayPal to be. After all, you need either a credit card or a bank account to use PayPal, don't you? (Truthfully that question isn't entirely rhetorical, as I always just use a credit card when I use PayPay. I know PayPal has other payment option, but I'm a bit hazy on what they are.) That was all I meant when I said he would still need something "like" a credit card.

"Like" a credit card and an actual credit card are to separate things, and sometimes greatly so. A debit card is "like" a credit card, but it really has very little in common with it.

No, you don't need a credit card to use PayPal at all.
 

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A nice one !