Pre-loading Stellaris

[barny]

How would that even work, exactly?

You download the game, but it's not unlocked. And then you... what? Sell someone the encrypted data you downloaded? Which they then have to break the encryption on to make use of? Just to get a hold of the exact same data they could get a day or two later without going to all that trouble? And they're paying the seller how much, exactly, to buy this encrypted data in the first place? What's the point?

I honestly didn't understood the argument from PDX either. Almost all large AAA title do it (because they are freaking huge by now), so how does that have to do anything with pirating? Or is it more a case of giving out keys to official resellers later because they don't need the keys earlier since there is no pre-load?

I would've understood it more, if they would have just said "Well, the game is only about 4 GB large, so we don't need a pre-load." Of course there are a few people for whom that doesn't work, but generally a pre-load isn't needed for such a small game in my opinion (and I don't have the best connection either).

 

[Turin the Mad]

IIRC they have said it's only a 4 GB download ...

 

[Azkaban]

They could release a 0.99.X version of the game that misses critical but small stuff, such as the launcher, the main menu and the galaxy generation script, a couple of days before the launch, and then release a patch that added all of that on the 9th.

IIRC they have said it's only a 4 GB download ...

Still a problem for people with shitty connections. Or for hyped people who wish for nothing but playing the game, such as me.

 

[Invictus5966]

I see in steam that friends have it but I don't see it for myself. Not sure if the preorder shows as owned or not.

 

[ahhheygao]

I would've understood it more, if they would have just said "Well, the game is only about 4 GB large, so we don't need a pre-load." Of course there are a few people for whom that doesn't work, but generally a pre-load isn't needed for such a small game in my opinion (and I don't have the best connection either).

Isn't that also what they said?

 

[Tavior]

4GB will take all night. I live in a cabin in the woods.

Somehow I don't think you want to call your location as "cabin in the woods." since there is a movie of the same name.

 

[McDog]

Somehow I don't think you want to call your location as "cabin in the woods." since there is a movie of the same name.

Cabin in the woods has trade offs.....good and bad points. It's quiet is a pro. Nature is a pro......gaming takes all night or all week to download fall on the negative side of the ledger. Gotta factor all that in when you decide where to live, plus lots of more important things. Gotta live with the decision you make. Now if you live with your parents and have no choice then sorry, that sucks!

 

[Ziffallo]

It will take me a long time to download.

 

[Tavior]

Wait.. I just realise that I could ask my girlfriend to klick the button while I am at work in the afternoon.. Praise the Blorg!
Does anyone know a "exact" time?

You do realize that if you have a smart phone that you can "start" your download remote on the steam application right?

All you need to do is log on the steam application phone. Keep your PC on all day (IE turn off sleep option and what not).

I did that once with tropico 5 because I was at my brother bbq party at release time.

 

[Tavior]

Cabin in the woods has trade offs.....good and bad points. It's quiet is a pro. Nature is a pro......gaming takes all night or all week to download fall on the negative side of the ledger. Gotta factor all that in when you decide where to live, plus lots of more important things. Gotta live with the decision you make. Now if you live with your parents and have no choice then sorry, that sucks!

My comment on the movie's name connection with a "location" has nothing to do with the actual nature and location.

"Cabin in the woods" is a sarcasm horror film making fun of most horror film. It even has some "Cthulhu" feeling to it. Do you want to name a cabin the "cabin in the woods." Be my quest just make sure to clarification that it is not a Cthulhu trap!

 

[McDog]

My comment on the movie's name connection with a "location" has nothing to do with the actual nature and location.

"Cabin in the woods" is a sarcasm horror film making fun of most horror film. It even has some "Cthulhu" feeling to it. Do you want to name a cabin the "cabin in the woods." Be my quest just make sure to clarification that it is not a Cthulhu trap!

I figured, I guess I quoted you, meant to quote the OP.....I got your reference......makes me think of the Evil Dead....I should watch that tonight.

 

[ahhheygao]

Somehow I don't think you want to call your location as "cabin in the woods." since there is a movie of the same name.

The evil has been defeated. Now Kiko's spirit will live in the happy frog!

 

[Fonz]

For all you lazy people, here's BjornB "NotKumakunThatsSoundBjorn" explaining why there's no preload

- We would need to put Steam keys out into circulation before release to allow for pre-loading (otherwise we would give Steam a HUGE advantage over other retailers). The longer we would have them in circulation, the bigger the risk they end up in the wrong places. As I explained in the OP, the shady people use faked or stolen credit card information and buy them from legal sites and sell them on their own to a lower price. In many cases (we've seen it a lot in the past) the Steam keys are reported to Steam for de-activation when the payment from the middle-hand fall through. The end result is that the middle-hand gets to keep the money you paid them, but your key will be deactivated, and the game removed from your library. It's not likely the middle-hand will be replying to your complaints or issuing a refund.

Also remote-access for your computer is generally a very bad idea unless you know 100% what you're doing.

 

[Tavior]

@Fonz what can the worst remote access to steam do? download everything until your hard drive is full of junk data?

Beside that the application can talk to other people (friend list) but other than that. Not much point to hack another account to download a game NOT on your PC.

I totally get what you are saying from a security point of view. Just not much point to hack a steam app unless you want to play a rude prank joke.

 

[Fonz]

@Fonz what can the worst remote access to steam do? download everything until your hard drive is full of junk data?

Well since this is the Internet, there will always be someone who googles a "legit third party application" to do it

 

[Tavior]

Eh instead of going back and forward on this topic.

I am sure steam will NOT want to lose customer because of something like this.

 

[Taipan]

IIRC they have said it's only a 4 GB download ...

hehe, only 4GB.... What an arrogant and dismissive comment

4GB is several hours download for me as it is for numerous people in the more isolated parts of the world where the connection doesn't have FTL download speeds

I'm going to switch on the download before I go to work, and then I'll cross my fingershopefully if my connection hasn't dropped out during the day, I can play Stallaris that night.

Pre-load would be a wonderful option for me, but I can understand the reasons why it isn't offered.

 

[Turin the Mad]

hehe, only 4GB.... What an arrogant and dismissive comment

4GB is several hours download for me as it is for numerous people in the more isolated parts of the world where the connection doesn't have FTL download speeds

I'm going to switch on the download before I go to work, and then I'll cross my fingershopefully if my connection hasn't dropped out during the day, I can play Stallaris that night.

Pre-load would be a wonderful option for me, but I can understand the reasons why it isn't offered.

Were I being arrogant and dismissive, it would be very clear from my end.

Others in this and similar threads have made the exact same comment, yet you're not busting their chops.

Given the size of many other games "only 4 GB" is very, very accurate.

I wish preloading was an option, but it's not. It'd be pretty awesome to have Stellaris go live within minutes of the big space button being pushed in PDX HQ the world over.

 

[Druesling]

Somehow I don't think you want to call your location as "cabin in the woods." since there is a movie of the same name.

Then it's a shed in the forest or a cabana in the assembly of treefolk.

 

[OrangeQuarter]

Lodging in the Arboreal Area.