POW's

[unmerged(47393)]

I'm not sure if this is been brought up before, if so, I apologise.

What if you had to deal with POW's as well. Say you're playing with SU and your armies get surrounded when Germany invades in 1941. Hundred thousands of soldiers would surrender an you would have to move them to POW camps. Maybe this could have an impact on your IC, since you have to support these prisoners. Or, make em work and even sort of improve your IC?

I'm still a noob, so I'm not sure what consequences this could have on the game, but it does add to realism. Now surrounded and defeated armies just seem to fade into thin air.

 

[unmerged(44716)]

Well, I'm sure it wouldn't be easy to code, but it doesn't sound bad; Depending on the type of goverment the POW's original country had, some should join you (People who live opressed in a Dictatorship would want to live in a Open Society / Democracy) and this could be represented as extra manpower. You would need to capture a lot of divisions for this to be useful, though.

 

[Hizarv]

Will not happen, please refer to forum rules in the main forum page.

 

[unmerged(44716)]

I said nothing about POW or concentration camps.

 

[unmerged(43564)]

I like the surgestion, and of couse it shoud be penalty on TC when transfering

 

[unmerged(43564)]

ye and they maby can wprk to improve your ic..

 

[markpalm1]

Depending on the type of goverment the POW's original country had, some should join you (People who live opressed in a Dictatorship would want to live in a Open Society / Democracy) and this could be represented as extra manpower.

POW's in real life are a drag on resources, they require guarding and feeding. Its not legal or ethical to make them fight for you.

 

[unmerged(47393)]

POW's in real life are a drag on resources, they require guarding and feeding. Its not legal or ethical to make them fight for you.

No, I'm aware of the ethical guidelines to the game. I don't mean having POW's work in concentration camps or whatever, just the fact that those defeated armies just vanish seems a very unrealistic flaw to me. So if a victorious nation had to take care of these men, would be a nice option. I do like the contribution that some of them might be willing to join your troops, I don't see any unethical issues there.

 

[unmerged(44716)]

Its not legal or ethical to make them fight for you.

Why do you think that? I really don't see anything unethical with this. It's much better than having entire armies vanish in the air. And please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't many russians, before the battle of Stalingrad, fight for the Germans in exchange for a piece of food?

 

[markpalm1]

Why do you think that? I really don't see anything unethical with this. It's much better than having entire armies vanish in the air. And please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't many russians, before the battle of Stalingrad, fight for the Germans in exchange for a piece of food?

Sounds like a bad deal, although USSR had not signed the Third Geneva Convention during the war.

Article 26 - The basic daily food rations shall be sufficient in quantity, quality and variety to keep prisoners of war in good health

Article 23 - No prisoner of war may at any time be sent to, or detained in areas where he may be exposed to the fire of the combat zone

 

[unmerged(46221)]

I fully agree with markpalm (for once )

Moreover, I doubt that the fighting will of enemy soldiers, which are in your army just for food, is very high. As long as their is no differentiation of manpower quality in the game, it would be wrong to consider them equal to your home troops!

Anyway, with a little bit of imagination, one can conceive that when enemy armies vanish from the screen, they are effectively taken as POWs. HoI cannot simulate everything, and this is a sensitive subject...

 

[Mik1984]

There are many strategic games that simulate the issue of taking prisoners, but I think there are more important enchancements for HOI2 waiting in the queue...

 

[unmerged(47885)]

POW could be released after the war and thus give manpower back to the nation. Many countire would benefit if they could give those men back to their new puppets and allies. The prisoners could also be used in peace negotiations. Many POW's would mean a higher war score.

 

[unmerged(17392)]

it has been brought up before and it will not happen.

the whole idea of it is too messy and paradox does not want to do anything that can be as politically sensative as POWs.

the mods do not like threads like this and i am surprised that one of them has not closed this one yet.

it has been brought up...try searching through the pages of old threads. this is brought up every couple of months or so. also, please read the forum rules...it clearly states that such ideas are unacceptable.

cheers

 

[unmerged(45356)]

POW could be released after the war and thus give manpower back to the nation.


Do you think that after being totured/starving they would want to go back and fight? Your nuts. I'll sign the mental slip.

 

[Darth Tracid]

Read the rules. Tracid