Powers without land -A suggestion

[tonythetiger]

Secret Societies had influence and power in various countries throughout the period. Assasins,Illuminati,Cult of Kali and Freemassons(Scotish, Irish and English Rite) all had members in one or more governments of the time. i feel that including these groups in the game as international entities playable,but not locked in to specific govt would be an interesting addition. They should have large spying bonus and be able to recrute from the courts, clergy, nobility and for that matter the generals of various countries and be able to help, hinder and infiltrate those govts. Playing both sides of a conflict and one country against another is one thing i always wanted to do in eu2. Also i feel the papacy should be getting kickback$ from all Catholic people & govts and be able to send out there own priests to convert heathen provs in catholic countries.

 

[unmerged(2456)]

And in the Med... The Barbaresqe states were nothing but pirate states. Best example of really working pirate nations, IMO. Actually, as they already exist, maybe they should have a set of unique options and events mirroring their nature. So you could play a navalised, inventive(for a period) moslem nation.

Regards, Oldtimer

Actually you could say the same for many of the "merchant" Clans in Kyushu and Kansai region. Even after the closure of Japan, they continued their ways and often made no distinction from pirating and legitimate trading. The central Japanese government did little to stop this, because they couldn't and because it benifited them as well. The Chinese and Koreans were unable to much against them either. The Europeans were better equpped, but even they were hardly immune.

Most of the wako were Chinese to be sure, but the pirate havens and actual trader-pirate states in many cases were Japanese and among the most viable ones.

 

[ramadawn]

I for one support this idea. Being able to play a trading company or pirate nation would and entire new layer lf depth to the game

 

[kolmy]

I love this idea, I was thinking about a similar thing some days ago, but this idea is cooler that the one i was thinking. You're in the right way, keep it up

 

[Kurdistani]

There are also small Priest run monastery states, like Zeta; or republics like Ragusa; or states like the Duchy of the Archipelago; Duchy of Athens; wandering Cossacks; or the forgotten Beydom of Emirlu who don't have much land or power, and are usually vassals to larger neighbors, yet they still survived for some period.

Where is the beydom of Emirlu?

 

[Tunch Khan]

Where is the beydom of Emirlu?

Ordu and Giresun in modern day Turkey. They were vassals of Akkoyunlu Federation. Also known as Bayramoglu Beydom.