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My request: please remember the current sub-forum when logging in and return to there after doing so. (As it was in the old forum.)

It is quite annoying, if the login-screen resets the forum to the main page, from where we have to go to the sub-forums overview and then finally back to the sub-forum from where we started in the first place.
In almost all case, I know exactly where I want to be, am there already and just want to log in to post in this very forum or simply add my ‘like’. Moving us around is quite counterproductive.
I believe that's WAD, insofar as it highlights the ads for the new games.
 
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Also: please increase the size of the profile pictures. I feel like it was part of the charme seeing all these pictures and icons more prominent.
Nah.

Anyway, since this is apparently an entirely different thread from the FEEDBACK thread (why?), I'll repeat this here:

It's pretty awful. It's bad and the design guys behind it should feel bad.

That said, I hope they look at it as a proactive chance to respond to their fans' fairly universal hate, which would win them points in the end. They should at minimum restore the classic colorschemes and the major lost functionality like threadmarks and dimming read threads. I really feel sorry for the AARs [dev team read: free advertising which in the case of @phargle & al. is still showing up in academic papers on historiography years after the fact].

Edit: Aaaaaand it logs me out for no reason with all the windows still open, trying to lose the posts that I'm writing. Knock it off.

Anyway, since everything is unsettled at the moment, dev guys please make this happen:
We need reactions more befitting the nature of Paradox Forums. Here is my list:
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And of course, last, but certainly not the least, we need the "Ubuesque" reaction. Make it happen.

Also, when you fix the extremely ugly smilies we've got at the moment, please restore most of these. Right now, we have to manual add them each time.
 

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Please remember the forum/thread I was in when I click "Log in".

And please remember that I clicked the "Toggle width" button, it resets the width every time I enter/leave a thread.
 
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One of the issues with the new forum, to me anyways, is vertical sprawl. Too few messages being displayed on one page and such.
Both long and short messages create too much dead space.

This is being caused, in part, by the 'Post date + share button + bookmark + postnumber' line, the 'last edited' and the 'report + edit + delete + quote + reply' lines all taking mutually exclusive room.
I suggest combining these as well as the message and like count on the user cell to the left of posts. Maybe even get rid of the emote space.

Now I should say that I'm already hiding forum badges for the same reason so maybe make those optional to display for users same as with the signatures.
(This wouldn't make a difference to one-liner posts but for longer ones)

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Seriously, the unused space through badges becomes a real problem:

01. Doesn't it make more sense that badges would toggle depending on the (sub)-forum I'm posting in ? If I'm posting ( for example ) in the Stellaris-forum then isn't it "enough" that my Stellaris-badges are just be presented ? ( Base-game and its DLCs ). Or in other words: Who in the Stellaris-forum would care that my CK-II-/ and EU-IV-badges aren't be presented ( in my Stellaris-forum-posts ) ?
02. For posts in a general forum like this one I would argue that's "enough" that my base-game-badges are just be presented.
03. If somebody wants to check my personal profile then all of my badges could still be presented.

That would also mean that limit of presented badges would function differently as well. Probably better, too.
 
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It's a bit slow responsive the like button, I think it's better change it to various button like Agree, Disagree and another general where it is the others hidden reactions.
 
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Seriously, the unused space through badges becomes a real problem:

01. Doesn't it make more sense that badges would toggle depending on the (sub)-forum I'm posting in ? If I'm posting ( for example ) in the Stellaris-forum then isn't it "enough" that my Stellaris-badges are just be presented ? ( Base-game and its DLCs ). Or in other words: Who in the Stellaris-forum would care that my CK-II-/ and EU-IV-badges aren't be presented ( in my Stellaris-forum-posts ) ?
02. For posts in a general forum like this one I would argue that's "enough" that my base-game-badges are just be presented.
03. If somebody wants to check my personal profile then all of my badges could still be presented.

That would also mean that limit of presented badges would function differently as well. Probably better, too.
Not a bad suggestion as such.
It really needs to come with the medal count bar coming back, though.
 

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Seriously, the unused space through badges becomes a real problem:

01. Doesn't it make more sense that badges would toggle depending on the (sub)-forum I'm posting in ? If I'm posting ( for example ) in the Stellaris-forum then isn't it "enough" that my Stellaris-badges are just be presented ? ( Base-game and its DLCs ). Or in other words: Who in the Stellaris-forum would care that my CK-II-/ and EU-IV-badges aren't be presented ( in my Stellaris-forum-posts ) ?
02. For posts in a general forum like this one I would argue that's "enough" that my base-game-badges are just be presented.
03. If somebody wants to check my personal profile then all of my badges could still be presented.

That would also mean that limit of presented badges would function differently as well. Probably better, too.
Was a bit heistant at first, as i'm one of those who likes to select the icon i display, usually... but i actually like the idea.

I would just amend your idea to add the "general icons" (Platypus, HumbleBundle, Paradox Order, PDXCon, and the likes) in all cases.
 

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Holy crap, Gigau's icons barely fit in a single page on my laptop.
 
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Holy crap, Gigau's icons barely fit in a single page on my laptop.
And i didn't get all my icons back... i got here 171 out of my 213 icons.

And i tried to put 166 of them inactive... but it seems that that function currently doesn't work.


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Oh, it looks like we can collapse forum icons, but we have to do it manually for each post. Haven't tested if it stores the option across different threads, but it doesn't seem that way.
 

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Oh, it looks like we can collapse forum icons, but we have to do it manually for each poster. Haven't tested if it stores the option across different threads.
There is an option in "Preferences".
 

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Yeah, that collapses the whole thing (not just icons) for all posters. I guess that solves the problem, albeit in a very inelegant way.
 

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Wow, the auto-collapse for badges and user info is very neat! Thanks forum elves :)
 
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1. The forum load time has at least doubled since the upgrade, making opening topics very user-unfriendly. If there's a way to fix that, then cut whatever's causing this load time bloat.
2. Bring back the "Show only Dev Replies" option. I mostly come here for the Dev Diaries and being able to see all the Dev responses quickly was a really great feature.
3. In the same vein, making Dev posts a slightly different color would help differentiate them from other posts.

All in all I'm not sure this latest forum change was an "upgrade" on the user end, and a lot of the QOL features that made this forum easy to navigate are gone.
 
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Dev posts are returning now, seemingly. In this thread the option appears: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/al-gores-concession-speech.3285/?prdxDevPosts=1
2. Bring back the "Show only Dev Replies" option. I mostly come here for the Dev Diaries and being able to see all the Dev responses quickly was a really great feature.
3. In the same vein, making Dev posts a slightly different color would help differentiate them from other posts.
Those two things are coming back as seen in what Loup linked. Though it probably is gonna take some time to flow through all te threads.
 
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Is anyone from Paradox listening about how much worse the forum user experience is due to this upgrade? I ask because I have seen no responses from anyone indicating that we are being heard.
 
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There is a rumor that companies that change parts of their software are nowadays advised not to talk to the customer about it as this will only lead to a giant storm of feces and any giving in will mean money and time lost and admitting, an error was made. 'You are the owners. You have the expertise and make no mistake' or similar new-age bull. Stonewalling and let the customers throw curses after curses as after about 6 weeks it will be business as usual again. The customer is stupid and will return to his obedient behavior again. And right they are. Anybody able to remember when some business changed their product to something we do not like? And how often we still bought the stuff we do not like because we are just to lazy to look for alternatives? The world is spinning strangely nowadays.

I am very unpleasantly being remembered about my experience with the new Steam Library UI. All the same here. I have no other suggestion for improvement but calling it a failure and rolling back to old version. It now looks more than an advertising billboard for tablet-PCs with some places to write something as secondary or tertiary function. It logs me out every time now even in midst of session which is a HUGE step of improvement versus the 'throw me out every three days'' annoyance (can contain small amounts of sarcasm). Sorry, I cannot get warm with the new one. The old one was old, but reliable and optically not as challenging as this one.
 
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Anybody able to remember when some business changed their product to something we do not like?
I still don't get any Skare products due to their involvement in the 2006 meat scandal (they among other thing repackaged expired meat as new...) as well as their alleged involvement in the 2013 horse meat scandal (no idea if that involvement was proven).

And I believe that the Sun still doesn't really sell many papers in Liverpool due to Hillsborough. So some boycotts/grievances do last.
 
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  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
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  • Magicka 2 - Signup Campaign
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  • Victoria 2
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  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
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  • Crusader Kings II
Paradox drastically changed Imperator after people complained about it. Valve is curerntly doing the same with Artifact.