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Ok, so I have to agree with that PU, although I hope I won´t get it :) I made some other slight changes too (most of them were suggested here). I also change 20% heretics to 30%, so the event will only occur when the country is more split. (Then, maybe it could be more probable if there were 40% and 50% of heretics).
We will need to runs test for the percentage. :) But atm 30 % sounds ok.
The Third Defenestration of Prague

Conditions:
1. The year is between 1600 and 1650
2. The state is catholic.
3. There are at lest 30% heretics in the state.

Text:
During the last years, there was religious freedom in the state, but the new king is trying to strengthen the position of the catholic church. Some protestants have built their churches on the lands of the catholic church which is against the old law which says: “Cuius regio, eius religio (meaning Whose realm, his religion). On the other hand, there are some doubts about the reading of the law which grants religious freedom. It is clear that serfs can choose their faith on the lands of the king, but can they do the same on the lands of the church? The protestant aristocrats wanted to defend their point of view on the diet in Prague, but the king has banned it. In the last moment, the king changed this ban to only request to delay the diet, but it was too late. The protestants thought it was the work of catholic high civil servants and threw them out the windows of the town hall. Although they all survived, the situation was no longer under control.

Choices:
A: We shall support the king.
B: They only defended their rights, the king must be removed.
C: Hopefully, it will all fade away.

Consequences of different choices:
A:
-2 stability
+10 legitimacy
15% more stability cost for 5 years
All heretic provinces will change their religion to catholic and gain +2 Revolt Risk and -10% Tax Income for 10 years.
I'd might suggest a +5 RR, but again : tests shall show us what is best. :)
B:
Offer the crown of the Kingom of Bohemia to any country which is Poland, Hungary or has german culture that has the most prestige and the best relations with Bohemia.
-10 legitimacy
-5 prestige

C1: They solved it peacefully.
+5 prestige;
+5 legitimacy

C2: Catholics have won.
-2 stability
Two heretic provinces change their religion to catholic and gain +1 Revolt Risk and -5% Tax Income for 5 years.
Bigger RR ? --> tests
C3: Protestants have won.
-2 stability
-10 prestige
any two catholic provinces will change their religion to protestant
Add in RR because of the unsettled catholic people in the province? And possibly a -10% tax income?
The monarchy X from choice B gets this choices:

Ba: We accept the crown.
Bb: Not really interested.

Consequences for the monarchy X

Ba:
+15 prestige
-1 stability
Forms PU with Bohemia

Bb:
-10 prestige
+1 stability
better relations with catholic neighbours
worse relations with Bohemia

Consequences for Bohemia

Ba: They accepted!
-5 legitimacy
+10 prestige
-2 stability
Change state religion to protestant (without stability hit)
Becomes junior partner in PU with the monarchy X.

Bb: Humiliating news.
-5 legitimacy
-15 prestige
-1 stability
worse relation with the monarchy X
+2% missionary chance for 10 years
Other countries are than offered the Crown of Bohemia.

EDIT: The offer shouldn´t be to german states first, I just wanted to say Czechs would most probably offer the crown to German, Polish or Hungarian ruler (no French,Spanish etc.) It is generalisation of course, they could offer it to somebody else, but for the purposes of the game, this would be better. I also didn´t want to say slavic instead of Poland as it could be too far away (Russia etc.) So any German state or Poland (Commenwealth included) or Hungary.
Good idea!
 

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Ok, I give 4, 2 and 1 RR (it is easily divided by 2 every time). I think you meant "then" in the sentence "Other countries are then offered the Crown of Bohemia." I think that isn´t necessary. If one country reject it, the protestant aristocracy would loose softly (better than war, worse than victory.) The king would remain the same, the country would suffer slight political faux pas. For the player it is not so bad (as I don´t know who would want to be a junior partner in PU anyway - this may be settled later). Now, the event looks like this. This should be the last time I post all consequences, then, I will always post only the changed ones.

Choices:
A: We shall support the king.
B: They only defended their rights, the king must be removed.
C: Hopefully, it will all fade away.

Consequences of different choices:
A:
-2 stability
+10 legitimacy
15% more stability cost for 5 years
All heretic provinces will change their religion to catholic and gain +4 Revolt Risk and -10% Tax Income for 10 years.

B:
Offer the crown of the Kingom of Bohemia to any protestant monarchy which has german culture (Austria included), or it is Poland (Commenwealth included) or Hungary.
-10 legitimacy
-5 prestige

C1: They solved it peacefully.
+5 prestige;
+5 legitimacy

C2: Catholics have won.
-2 stability
Two heretic provinces change their religion to catholic and gain +2 Revolt Risk and -5% Tax Income for 5 years.

C3: Protestants have won.
-2 stability
-10 prestige
Any two catholic provinces will change their religion to protestant and gain +1 Revolt Risk and -5% Tax Income for 5 years.

The monarchy X from choice B gets this choices:

Ba: We accept the crown.
Bb: Not really interested.

Consequences for the monarchy X

Ba:
+15 prestige
-1 stability
Forms PU with Bohemia

Bb:
-10 prestige
+1 stability
better relations with catholic neighbours
worse relations with Bohemia

Consequences for Bohemia

Ba: They accepted!
-5 legitimacy
+10 prestige
-2 stability
Change state religion to protestant (without stability hit)
Becomes junior partner in PU with the monarchy X.

Bb: Humiliating news.
-5 legitimacy
-15 prestige
-1 stability
worse relation with the monarchy X
+2% missionary chance for 10 years
 

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Ok, I give 4, 2 and 1 RR (it is easily divided by 2 every time). I think you meant "then" in the sentence "Other countries are then offered the Crown of Bohemia." I think that isn´t necessary. If one country reject it, the protestant aristocracy would loose softly (better than war, worse than victory.) The king would remain the same, the country would suffer slight political faux pas. For the player it is not so bad (as I don´t know who would want to be a junior partner in PU anyway - this may be settled later). Now, the event looks like this. This should be the last time I post all consequences, then, I will always post only the changed ones.

Choices:
A: We shall support the king.
B: They only defended their rights, the king must be removed.
C: Hopefully, it will all fade away.

Consequences of different choices:
A:
-2 stability
+10 legitimacy
15% more stability cost for 5 years
All heretic provinces will change their religion to catholic and gain +4 Revolt Risk and -10% Tax Income for 10 years.

B:
Offer the crown of the Kingom of Bohemia to any protestant monarchy which has german culture (Austria included), or it is Poland (Commenwealth included) or Hungary.
-10 legitimacy
-5 prestige

C1: They solved it peacefully.
+5 prestige;
+5 legitimacy

C2: Catholics have won.
-2 stability
Two heretic provinces change their religion to catholic and gain +2 Revolt Risk and -5% Tax Income for 5 years.

C3: Protestants have won.
-2 stability
-10 prestige
Any two catholic provinces will change their religion to protestant and gain +1 Revolt Risk and -5% Tax Income for 5 years.

The monarchy X from choice B gets this choices:

Ba: We accept the crown.
Bb: Not really interested.

Consequences for the monarchy X

Ba:
+15 prestige
-1 stability
Forms PU with Bohemia

Bb:
-10 prestige
+1 stability
better relations with catholic neighbours
worse relations with Bohemia

Consequences for Bohemia

Ba: They accepted!
-5 legitimacy
+10 prestige
-2 stability
Change state religion to protestant (without stability hit)
Becomes junior partner in PU with the monarchy X.

Bb: Humiliating news.
-5 legitimacy
-15 prestige
-1 stability
worse relation with the monarchy X
+2% missionary chance for 10 years

So if it is rejected than you dont need to fire the event for another nation x, so the regency continues? Is this what you mean ? :)
 

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Well, yes. We can discuss it more. Maybe it can fire for 2 or 3 nations, but not for more. And for the second and third try, there would be bigger prestige penalties for rejecting. I may do this later as an event on itself whcih would be triggered by this event - this is quite big as it is. One thing I changed in the morning was there is no longer regency needed. It is catholic king against protestant aristocracy, so the choices are support king, support aristocracy and have a new king/have offer rejected - then protestants slightly loose or don´t get involved in it and risking some slighter penalties.
 

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Well, yes. We can discuss it more. Maybe it can fire for 2 or 3 nations, but not for more. And for the second and third try, there would be bigger prestige penalties for rejecting. I may do this later as an event on itself whcih would be triggered by this event - this is quite big as it is. One thing I changed in the morning was there is no longer regency needed. It is catholic king against protestant aristocracy, so the choices are support king, support aristocracy and have a new king/have offer rejected - then protestants slightly loose or don´t get involved in it and risking some slighter penalties.

Ok ,I edited the second post with all info. Its a big one indeed :p It is perhaps the wisest, like you said, that other events are created to better control the way things go.
 

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So, I was thinking about something more general and I found it :) An event for the most of the European countries. I have already one more event in mind which could be connected to this one.

A new calendar

Conditions:
1. The year is at least 1580 (historically it was in 1582, so this is rather small change)
2. Administrative power of theruler is at least 3
3. The state religion is any of the christian religions (maybe even without orthodox, that would be more historical, I am open for discussion)
4. One of the following is true:
4a: Administrative power of the ruler is at least 4
4b: Relations with the Papal state are at least 50 (I think I hear max is 100, if it is 200, then the value here would be 100)

Text:
Julius Caesar did enforce the reform of the calendar in 46 BC. Julian calendar had 365 days each year and every for years it had 366 days (thi year was called Leap year). It was first used in 45 BC. Although everything seems alright, this calendar still wasn´t perfectly precise. The calendar gained about 3 days every 4 centuries. In the 16th century, the shift was too big to be overlooked. The society was still connected to agriculture and this shifts in calendar mean nothing but troubles. The pope decides it is time to change and had established a new calendar. In this calendar, some of the leap years were removed (specifically those which ended by double zero and their first two digits were divisible by 4, for example the year 1600), so the shift was only 1 day every 3600 years. This calendar was working with the idea of heliocentrism, so purely out of practical reasons, this idea was accepted as a theory.

Choices:
A: This is just what we needed!
B: Nah, those thing cannot be trusted.

Consequences of different choices:

A:
+10% Production Efficiency untill the end of the game.
+2 Revolt Risk for 10 years.

B:
+150 Gold
-1 Revolt Risk for 10 years.

If the B is chosen, there is a chance to another event to fire.

Spreading of the new calendar

Conditions:
1. The Year is at least 1640
2. Administrative power of the ruler is at least 3
3. The event “A new calendar” was rejected.

Text:
Although heliocentrism was signed as herecy, the new calendar did survive. Now, still more and more states are using it and having benefits from it. Shall we also introduce it?

Choices:
A: It is a good thing, results are not lying.
B: We shall stick to the tradition.

Consequences of different choices:

A:
+5% Production Efficiency until the end of the game
+1 Revolt Risk for 5 years.

B:
+200 gold
 

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Here I have another one which is connected to the previous one. I hope you like it and don´t think I am spamming it here :rolleyes:

The idea of heliocentrism

Conditions:

1. The year is at least 1600
2. Stability is at least +2
3. Either “A new calendar” or “Spreading of the new calendar” was accepted.

Stats improving chance to happen

1. Stability is +3: 1.10
2. Not catholic: 1.15
3. The year is at least 1650: 1.10

Text:
The idea of heliocentrism standed against the idea of geocentrism for some time. In the 16th century, the idea of heliocentrism was accepted as a theory, but later the catholic church banned this idea. Even after the death of Giordano Bruno in 1600, still more and more proofs are suggesting that the geocentrism is wrong. Now, the idea of heliocentrism is spreading to our country as well. What shall we do?

Choices:

A: We shall support this idea as much as we can.
B: Those thoughts should be banned.
C: Those thinkers can stay, but I don´t know anything about it, right?

Consequences of different choices:

A:
+5 prestige
10% Cheaper Technologies for 20 years.
-1 Stability
+3 Revolt Risk for 10 years.
-2% Missionary Chance for 10 years.

B:
+5 prestige
-2 Revolt Risk for 10 years.
+1% Missionary Chance for 10 years.

C:
+200 Gold
5% Cheaper Technologies for 15 years.
+2 Revolt Risk for 5 years.
 

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Great Northern War:

Conditions:

At least two of the following exist: Russia, Poland/Commonwealth, Denmark,

At least two of the above have the ability to form a coalition.

Sweden owns Estonia.

Sweden is in a regency(historically, the regency had just ended, but this will make it more rare)



Denmark/Russia/Poland get event

A Grand Coalition

Description: Sweden has lately expanded its grasp over the Baltic Sea, but few if any states bordering it are entirely happy with this. With Sweden in a regency with a seemingly weak king, now is the time to strike! Time to cage the Northern Lion!

A: Trust me, this fight they can´t win! * Nation enters coalition with other nations that accept and declares war on Sweden. If no other nation accepts, no war is declared*

B: War? With Sweden? I´ll get back to you on that... * Nation declines to join coalition and loses 5 prestige *

If two or more nations accept and war is declared, Sweden gets event:

The Devils Coalition:

Description: In a move as dastardly as ungodly, it seems our neighbours have joined forces against us.

A: See the Caroleans standing tall, all for one and one for all! *Sweden gains 5 prestige*

B: It is strange how both my cousins wish to wage war against me... * Relations between nations at war with Sweden and Sweden changed by +10 *

After this DHE has fired once, it cannot fire again.

All in all, it may be a bit convoluted, but I thought it was good fun to write.

Note: Any and all demands in the war all cost -5 in aggressive expansion.
 
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May I point out there are still missing Finland NIs at the first page. May you add it there, please? :)
It's still unfinished ,the diet nor Eduskunta are correct.
Dynamic Historical Event:

Great Northern War:

Conditions:

At least two of the following exist: Russia, Poland/Commonwealth, Denmark,

At least two of the above have the ability to form a coalition.

Sweden owns Estonia.

Sweden is in a regency(historically, the regency had just ended, but this will make it more rare)



Denmark/Russia/Poland get event

A Grand Coalition

Description: Sweden has lately expanded its grasp over the Baltic Sea, but few if any states bordering it are entirely happy with this. With Sweden in a regency with a seemingly weak king, now is the time to strike! Time to cage the Northern Lion!

A: Trust me, this fight they can´t win! * Nation enters coalition with other nations that accept and declares war on Sweden. If no other nation accepts, no war is declared*

B: War? With Sweden? I´ll get back to you on that... * Nation declines to join coalition and loses 5 prestige *

If two or more nations accept and war is declared, Sweden gets event:

The Devils Coalition:

Description: In a move as dastardly as ungodly, it seems our neighbours have joined forces against us.

A: See the Caroleans standing tall, all for one and one for all! *Sweden gains 5 prestige*

B: It is strange how both my cousins wish to wage war against me... * Relations between nations at war with Sweden and Sweden changed by +10 *

After this DHE has fired once, it cannot fire again.

All in all, it may be a bit convoluted, but I thought it was good fun to write.

Note: Any and all demands in the war all cost -5 in aggressive expansion.

Nice event :) Just to be clear ,this event only fires for Russia , Sweden , Poland / Commonwealth and Denmark?
 

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Yes.

It would be more adaptable if it would fire for any rivals of Sweden, but I think that might be a bit silly. It is "The Great NORTHERN War", not "The great anti-sweden coalition war."

Thank you for the praise, by the way! It´s always nice to know someone else had fun reading it.
 

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With that Finnish NIs it is fair point. I would do it, but I am no expert there. Btw I made a mistake with Gregorian calendar about rules. This is wright: In this calendar, some of the leap years were removed (specifically those which were divisible by 100 except for those which were divisible by 400). Can you please put it in there? Thanks.
 

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Well, here is another of my DHE for Bohemia. This time it is not based purely on historical events, it is more like what could have happened. I will be pleased for any feedback. I will write some explanation here and there so it will be more clear what I was thinking.

The return of the clergy.

Conditions:

1. The year is at least 1500.
2. Relations with the Papal state are at least 50.
3. Administrative power of the ruler is at least 3.
4. The state is at peace.

Stats improving chance to happen

1. Relations with the Papal state are at least 75: 1.10
2. Administrative power of the ruler is at least 4: 1.10

Text:
The clergy was effectively removed by the Hussite wars. The church had lost it´s power and the clergy wasn´t presented at diets any more. Now, the church is trying to get it´s position back again. After all, it was here since time immemorial. Maybe we should consider the idea of giving it it´s rights back.

Choices:

A: The clergy needs to get more power.
B: We fought hard against these greedy clerics, they don´t deserve any privileges.

Consequences of different choices:

A:
+10 Legitimacy (The church will approve the rule of the monarch who helped it)
+20 Relations with the Papal state
+2% Missionary Chance for 5 years
+2 Revolt Risk for 10 years (Aristocracy and citizens are unhappy with this)
5% More Expensive Technologies for 10 years

B:
+10 Prestige (not under the pope)
+150 Gold (aristocracy and citizens are grateful)
-25 Relations with the Papal state
-5% Production Efficiency for 10 years (peasants, the traditional supporters of the church and the back of the economy, are unhappy with this).
 
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Yes.

It would be more adaptable if it would fire for any rivals of Sweden, but I think that might be a bit silly. It is "The Great NORTHERN War", not "The great anti-sweden coalition war."

Thank you for the praise, by the way! It´s always nice to know someone else had fun reading it.
:) I understand what you mean . I hope it will be even more fun playing it. :D ;)

With that Finnish NIs it is fair point. I would do it, but I am no expert there. Btw I made a mistake with Gregorian calendar about rules. This is wright: In this calendar, some of the leap years were removed (specifically those which were divisible by 100 except for those which were divisible by 400). Can you please put it in there? Thanks.
They are fine and I will put them there ,I just want Oliggarchy to edit the last idea. :) Edited Calendar.
Well, here is another of my DHE for Bohemia. This time it is not based purely on historical events, it is more like what could have happened. I will be pleased for any feedback. I will write some explanation here and there so it will be more clear what I was thinking.

The return of the clergy.

Conditions:

1. The year is not 1500 yet.
2. Relations with the Papal state are at least 50.
3. Administrative power of the ruler is at least 3.
4. The state is at peace.

Stats improving chance to happen

1. Relations with the Papal state are at least 75: 1.10
2. Administrative power of the ruler is at least 4: 1.10

Text:
The clergy was effectively removed by the Hussite wars. The church had lost it´s power and the clergy wasn´t presented at diets any more. Now, the church is trying to get it´s position back again. After all, it was here since time immemorial. Maybe we should consider the idea of giving it it´s rights back.

Choices:

A: The clergy needs to get more power.
B: We fought hard against these greedy clerics, they don´t deserve any privileges.

Consequences of different choices:

A:
+10 Legitimacy (The church will approve the rule of the monarch who helped it)
+20 Relations with the Papal state
+5% Tax Income for 10 years (The church has many lands with many people, but the crown wants some from it too, for a while).
+2 Revolt Risk for 10 years (Aristocracy and citizens are unhappy with this)
5% More Expensive Technologies for 10 years

B:
+10 Prestige (not under the pope)
+100 Gold (aristocracy and citizens are grateful)
-25 Relations with the Papal state
-5% Production Efficiency for 5 years (peasants, the traditional supporters of the church and the back of the economy, are unhappy with this).

I see this triggering waaay too often. :p
 

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I will change that.
EDIT: I was also changing it from year 1444-1500 to 1500+ It is more logical it would take some time (historically this happened after the protestant loss in the 17th century). Now, it should be harder. Also, have in mind that maximum relation should be 100 (I am not sure, just take number in relations as percents).

The return of the clergy.

Conditions:

1. The year is at least 1500
2. Relations with the Papal state are at least 75.
3. Administrative power of the ruler is at least 4.
4. Stability is at least +2
5. The state is catholic
6. The state is at peace.

Text:
The clergy was effectively removed by the Hussite wars. The church had lost it´s power and the clergy wasn´t presented at diets any more. Now, the church is trying to get it´s position back again. After all, it was here since time immemorial. Maybe we should consider the idea of giving it it´s rights back.

Choices:

A: The clergy needs to get more power.
B: We fought hard against these greedy clerics, they don´t deserve any privileges.

Consequences of different choices:

A:
+15 Legitimacy
+15 Relations with the Papal state
+2% Missionary Chance for 10 years
+3 Revolt Risk for 10 years
5% More Expensive Technologies for 15 years

B:
+10 Prestige
+150 Gold
-25 Relations with the Papal state
-5% Production Efficiency for 10 years
 
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I will change that.
EDIT: I was also changing it from year 1444-1500 to 1500+ It is more logical it would take some time (historically this happened after the protestant loss in the 17th century). Now, it should be harder. Also, have in mind that maximum relation should be 100 (I am not sure, just take number in relations as percents).

The return of the clergy.

Conditions:

1. The year is at least 1500
2. Relations with the Papal state are at least 75.
3. Administrative power of the ruler is at least 4.
4. Stability is at least +2
5. The state is catholic
6. The state is at peace.

Text:
The clergy was effectively removed by the Hussite wars. The church had lost it´s power and the clergy wasn´t presented at diets any more. Now, the church is trying to get it´s position back again. After all, it was here since time immemorial. Maybe we should consider the idea of giving it it´s rights back.

Choices:

A: The clergy needs to get more power.
B: We fought hard against these greedy clerics, they don´t deserve any privileges.

Consequences of different choices:

A:
+15 Legitimacy
+15 Relations with the Papal state
+2% Missionary Chance for 10 years
+3 Revolt Risk for 10 years
5% More Expensive Technologies for 15 years

B:
+10 Prestige
+150 Gold
-25 Relations with the Papal state
-5% Production Efficiency for 10 years

If it happened in the 17th century ,i'd put the date to 1600-1700.
And why cant the papal relations be above 100 ?
And maybe we should actually let this event trigger on a monarch with bad admin points. So that it looks like he NEEDS the help of the clergy in the administration of Bohemia.
So id suggest an adminpower (of monarch) 3 or 4, not more?
 

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Ok, also, it can give you better chance to get cardinal as long as you are catholic. Historically, the Hussites Wars get rid off clergy for quite some time in Bohemia (they stay in Moravia and some other parts of the kingdom). Then there wasn´t need for them and that is where my event kicks in. Historically the church gets it´s power back after the Defenestration and Wars in the 17th century. But this wasn´t a gradual process, it happened only because everything went wrong, there was big war and then the Habsburg king get rid off every enemy he had. Aristocracy, citizens and protestant clergyman. So this is why I wrote it as 1500+. But maybe it would be better to have it like 1500-1650.
EDIT: I would also like to point out that today the number of views of this thread grew about 500, which is great. People see there is something happening and they are reading it (hopefully). In the future, there could be more people making events etc.
 

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Ok, also, it can give you better chance to get cardinal as long as you are catholic.
The relations alrdy affect the papal influence --> chance of getting a cardinal. Do you want to influence it more? Were there any other nations at the time that threw out their clergy? If not ,than maybe an extra penalty wouldnt be bad to worsen the papal influence.
Historically, the Hussites Wars get rid off clergy for quite some time in Bohemia (they stay in Moravia and some other parts of the kingdom). Then there wasn´t need for them and that is where my event kicks in. Historically the church gets it´s power back after the Defenestration and Wars in the 17th century. But this wasn´t a gradual process, it happened only because everything went wrong, there was big war and then the Habsburg king get rid off every enemy he had. Aristocracy, citizens and protestant clergyman. So this is why I wrote it as 1500+. But maybe it would be better to have it like 1500-1650.
EDIT: I would also like to point out that today the number of views of this thread grew about 500, which is great. People see there is something happening and they are reading it (hopefully). In the future, there could be more people making events etc.
Nah ,that just me who was refreshing 500 times today :p

I will study more tomorrow for my upcoming exam ,so don't be surprised if you don't hear me as much as today. ;)
 

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The relations alrdy affect the papal influence --> chance of getting a cardinal. Do you want to influence it more? Were there any other nations at the time that threw out their clergy? If not ,than maybe an extra penalty wouldnt be bad to worsen the papal influence.

Then it is ok. That penalty, Iam not sure how it would work. Maybe there could be some effect from the beggining of the game that would slightly influence relations with the pope.