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I understand now what you mean ,I failed to realise you meant it as a national decision . I thought it was a DHE. A ND is fine by me.
I didnt find you on steam btw.

I modified the text here and there. Ive also added an extra missionary to the papal states as effect to the decision of removing the 60-member limit.
Changed the effects of removing the jesuits. This makes this decision something to consider now IMO . 50 gold at the end of the game is practically nothing. :p
I want people to scatch their heads on chosing to pick or not pick this decision . ;)

There can be as many modifiers as you want ,but make sure that all modifiers have a nice name indicating their purpose.
 

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Mostly, they will be named "Jesuits in ..... lands" by religion or geographical means, which is fine. With sacking them, I will have to think about some original terms. :happy:

I agree gold and/or prestige may be boosted. But with catholic, the previous modifier isn´t that powerful. It is good when you want to convert. But when you don´t have money, or you don´t want to convert etc., it is good to get rid of it - you gain money, prestige and tolerance, you loose convert ability and relations with pope (but you have to have those low anyway).

With different religions, there will be different modifiers oriented also on educational part of the order. So the pope will get prestige (work plan really) for sending those monks to another parts of the world, but if the locals accept their presence, it slightly helps them with their teching up (but also, there will be some minus modifiers).

ND (national decision) vs DHE is the question of usability. DHE seems to be more fun, but ND is more safe and easier to handle. When we finish this whole big chain, we may even add some flavour DHEs (more rights to Jesuits, less rights to Jesuits, reaction on sacking them etc.) But then that would be really huge :cool: I wonder, if something this big is already in the game. Later today, I´ll try to make and post my proposals for inviting and sacking the order in the Orthodox states.

EDIT: I found both burny26 and BURNY26 (this one has a picture of a babe). Which one is you?
 
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Mostly, they will be named "Jesuits in ..... lands" by religion or geographical means, which is fine. With sacking them, I will have to think about some original terms. :happy:

I agree gold and/or prestige may be boosted. But with catholic, the previous modifier isn´t that powerful. It is good when you want to convert. But when you don´t have money, or you don´t want to convert etc., it is good to get rid of it - you gain money, prestige and tolerance, you loose convert ability and relations with pope (but you have to have those low anyway).

With different religions, there will be different modifiers oriented also on educational part of the order. So the pope will get prestige (work plan really) for sending those monks to another parts of the world, but if the locals accept their presence, it slightly helps them with their teching up (but also, there will be some minus modifiers).
Making westernisation slightly easier ,good plan. :)
ND (national decision) vs DHE is the question of usability. DHE seems to be more fun, but ND is more safe and easier to handle. When we finish this whole big chain, we may even add some flavour DHEs (more rights to Jesuits, less rights to Jesuits, reaction on sacking them etc.) But then that would be really huge :cool: I wonder, if something this big is already in the game. Later today, I´ll try to make and post my proposals for inviting and sacking the order in the Orthodox states.
Thats the idea ,branching out on this. Since they were a global phenomenon it is easier to come up with ideas and results.
The same can be said about the huguenots. With their immigration towards the colonies and protestant nations, they were a global event as well.
EDIT: I found both burny26 and BURNY26 (this one has a picture of a babe). Which one is you?
The one with the hottest avatar of this fine lady :p
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Another part of this Jesuit adventure, national decisions for orthodox countries to invite Jesuits and to sack them.

Invite the west preachers

Conditions:

1. The state is orthodox
2. The papal states have the modifier "The grand order" for at least 25 years
3. Diplomatic power of the ruler is at least 4
4. At least one of the following is true
a) Our opinion on the papal states is at least 50
b) Having an alliance with a catholic state
c) Having a royal marriage with a catholic state

Text:

In 1054, the Great schism did happen. The Christianity split between the Roman catholic church and the Orthodox church. Still, both churches are relatively close to each other. Now, the new religious order was form in western Europe. If we invite those preachers to our country, we will be closer to the Roman catholic church. This may improve our relations with catholic states, but our traditions will be damaged.

Consequences:

The state will get the modifier "Jesuits in orthodox lands" or until the time state will change it´s religion with following effects:
1. +1% missionary chance
2. +1 tolerance of heretics
3. 10% faster decay of bad relations with catholic states
4. -1 tolerance of the true faith
5. -1 yearly patriarchal power
Note: maybe it should be more. Lower patriarchal power makes bigger RR, worse manpower managing, but it raises taxes (less money to patriarch, but people are more angry).

Terminate the residence of the Jesuits


Conditions:

1. Having the modifier "Jesuits in orthodox lands" for at least 20 years.
2. Administrative power of the ruler is at least 3
3. Diplomatic power of the ruler is at least 3
4. Patriarchal power is at least 50
Note: I believe is based on %, so it is from 0 to 100. Having Jesuits actually weakens the patriarch. It is reasonable that if he somehow become powerful enough, he would like to get rid of them.

Text:

The Roman catholic preachers are somewhat useful to us, but the people and our own clergy are against them. It will be wise to terminate the activity of the western preachers to keep things under control.
Note: not something special - if you wish, you may make it better (again, if the texts are long, there will be a popup needed).

Consequences:

+15 prestige
+50 gold
Note: catholic states would get more gold and less prestige (10 prestige and 150 gold, 10/200?)
-25 opinion on us from all catholic states

The modifier "Jesuits in orthodox lands" will be removed from the state.
 
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Missionary work in India
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Conditions:

1. Have the modifier "The grand order" for at least 40 years.
2. Don´t have the modifier "Jesuit expedition"
3. Administrative power of the ruler is at least 4
4. Diplomatic power of the ruler is at least 4

Text:

Society of Jesus is now a huge religious order with great potential. The pope decided it is time to send missionaries from this order to the buddhists and hinduists, mostly on the Indian subcontinent, but also in different regions. This action will cost us some money, but it can bring a great glory to the papacy.

Consequences:

+20 prestige
-200 gold
The state will get hte modifier "Jesuit expedition" for 20 years with the following effects
1. +1% missionary chance
2. -1 revolt risk
All buddhist and hinduist countries will get the event "Preachers from Far West" (Note: in 20 years maybe?)
 

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Missionary work in India
(National decision for the papal states)

Conditions:

1. Have the modifier "The grand order" for at least 40 years.
2. Don´t have the modifier "Jesuit expedition"
3. Administrative power of the ruler is at least 4
4. Diplomatic power of the ruler is at least 4

Text:

The Society of Jesus is now a huge religious order with great potential. Our Holy Father has deemed it wise to send missionaries from this order to the buddhists and hinduists, mostly on the Indian subcontinent. This action will cost us some money, but it can bring great glory to the Holy See.

Consequences:

+20 prestige
-200 gold
The state will get the modifier "Jesuit expedition" for 20 years with the following effects
1. +1% missionary chance
2. -1 revolt risk
All buddhist and hinduist countries will get the event "Preachers from Far West" (Note: in 20 years maybe?)

Ok , I modified your text a bit. But it looks good . :)
 

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DHE for buddhists and hinduists. A few technical problems - it is a question of the right formulation, please look at it. I think the text is really nice and the effects are interesting. There are slightly more of them this time, but still it should be quite balances.

Preachers from Far West

Conditions:

1. One of the following is true
a) The state is buddhist
b) the state is hinduist
Note: maybe it is hindu - in that case, please correct it in the papal decision to send Jesuits to India too.
2. The papal states used national decision "Missionary work in India"
Note: I don´t know how should I say it. If it is problem, I may give to pope 3 types of Jesuit expedition – each with trigger for different part of the world.
Note2: This should always fire during X years (15 or 20 I guess). Is it possible to program it like that? Make the chance for firing this event 100% if it takes too long perhaps? Those are more technical problems, I appreciate any help.


Text:

In last decades, preachers from Far West are pouring into our lands. They are members of some religious cult from their homeland and they want to preach their faith here. This may split our believers into two camps which is not ideal. On the other hand, there are many branches of the same religions already and it was never a big problem. Those monks are also very educated and they combine preaching with teaching. They may improve our knowledge in many branches, should we accept their presence.

Choices:

A: Welcome one more cult to our rich culture.
B: Those people can´t be trusted to.

Consequences of different choices:

A:
The state will get the modifier "Western preachers" until the end of the game or until the time state will change it´s religion with following effects:
1. +5% production efficiency
2. 5% cheaper technologies
3. +1 tolerance of heathens
4. -2% missionary chance
5. -5% tax modifier

B:
+10 prestige
+10 legitimacy
 
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Expel the foreign preachers

Conditions:

1. The state has the modifier „Western preachers“ for at least 25 years.
2. Administrative power of the ruler at least 3
3. Military power of the ruler at least 3
4. Prestige at least 0

Text:

The western preachers bring less use than troubles to us. Their strange habits begin to confuse our people. Some are with them, some are openly against them. The harmony is disturbed by those tensions. Our most close advisors say those preachers should be expel from our country for maintaining the stability. They may be right.

Consequences:

+5 prestige
+20 legitimacy
+1 stability
The modifier „Western preachers“ will be removed from the state
Note: Not sure what could buddhists or hinduists get from expeling Jesuits, legitimacy and stability seemed most logical to me. Also, it is important to know what the removed modifier does.
 

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Hi Boleslav, hi burny26 I would like to join the discussion about the Jesuits DHE as I'm quite an expert at Jesuits and XVI-XVII century history.
These are my ideas about the birth and expansion of the Society of Jesus in the game based on the historical evidence of the order's chracteristics.

The Society of Jesus

As any religious order of the Catholic Church, it should arise independently of Papal will. The pope in reality just had to give his approval. Morevoer I think the Jesuits were so important for European history that the possbility of them not appearing because of Papal refusal would be inconceivable. Nevertheless, the Pope has, subsequently, the power to decide whhere to send the Jesuits (America, India, China, Japan, Africa).

Its birth then should take place by a Major Event with the following triggering conditions:
- any country is protestant/reformed (or year is 1520)
- country is catholic
- country's reform desire is higher than 30%

Mean time to happen: months = 120
modifiers:
  • every 10% of reform desire over 30% modifies MTTH by 0.9
  • any neighbouring nation being protestant modifies MTTH by 0.9
  • religious unity higher than 80% decreases MTTH by 0.9
  • religious unity higher than 90% decreases MTTH by 0.9
  • each 10% of religious unity lower than 70% increases MTTH by 1.1
Effects: the country will get the country modifier "The Jesuit Order" until the end of the game with the following effects:
1) +2% missionary strength
2) -10% stability cost
3) -1 national revolt risk
Lose 50 administrative points and 10% reform desire.

Spread of Jesuits
This event can happen to catholic countries not having the modifer "The Jesuit Order". It represents the spread of Jesuits throughout Europe.

Conditions:
- any country has modifier "The Jesuit Order"
- country is catholic
- country doesn't have modifier "The Jesuit Order"
- country's reform desire is higher than 20%

Mean time to happen: months = 120
modifiers:
  • every 10% of reform desire over 30% modifies MTTH by 0.9
  • any neighbouring nation having "The Jesuit Order" modifies MTTH by 0.8
  • having opinion of Papal States greater than 50 increases MTTH by 0.9
  • having opinion of Papal States lower than -50 decreases MTTH by 1.1
  • papal states having modifier "Jesuits Order supported" decreases MTTH by 0.5
  • papal states not having modifier "Jesuits Order supported" increases MTTH by 2.0
Choices:

A: the country will get the country modifier "The Jesuit Order" until the end of the game with the following effects:
1) +2% missionary strength
2) -10% stability cost
3) -1 national revolt risk
Lose 50 administrative points and 10% reform desire.

B: the country gains 10% reform desire.
 
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Looks nice, pity you come so late. But still, I have nothing against my events being replaced by yours. As you can see, I finnished India spreading, now I will work on Far East (including China, Japan). Burny told me he then would like to make some special DHEs for those countries.

Working with reform desire is nice touch. I also agree with mechanic which will ensure Jesuits will spawn.

Their spreading should be really slow from the beginning (slower than you suggest), because there could be only 60 members. When (if? when? HELP!) the pope would remove this restriction it should severely cut the time of their spreading - but just for catholics.

We agreed that protestant countries shouldn´t get them, we didn´t find arguments strong enough for Jesuits in muslim lands (any help?), orthodox countries have to invite them themselves, other regions are under the papal decision - but they can choose whether they want Jesuits or not, and every country, should it meet the conditions, can expel them.

I really hope you won´t destroy my whole work now :D, but if you have any complaints about what is done already (excluding what you already wrote), please post them too. I really thing your solving of the first steps is superior to mine, the other stuff seems to be ok for me. PS: It is really good to read something else than posts from burny or my. In last few days it was two men work actually :)
 

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Excellent, I'm really glad you shared my ideas. I like your intellectual honesty.
About the limit of 60 members we could have a decision for the Papal States to remove it allowing the Jesuits to spread in other countries.

Remove the limit on the number of members of the Society of Jesus

Text: Removing the limit of 60 members will allow the Jesuit Order to spread all over the world defending the Catholic Church from the advance of the heresy of Protestantism.

Potential:
- any country has modifier "The Jesuit Order"
- country is catholic
- country is Papal States

Allow:
- has 25 administrative points
- ...other conditions
- ...

Effects:
The country will get the country modifier "Jesuits Order supported" until the end of the game with the following effects:
1) +1 yearly prestige
2) ...some doubts about the effects of this modifier
3) ...
Lose 25 administrative points and 10% reform desire. Gain 5 prestige.

I modified the requisites of the event spread of the jesuits. Now Jesuits should spread in other countries very slowly unless the Papal States have removed the limit by decision.

I will take a deeper look into your events and decisions about Jesuits in other continents but -don't worry- I won't destroy your work. :)
 
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We already have a papal decision to extent the order - I named it somehow, but in game (mod) it would be called after the bull which removed that restriction - burny is working on that details (we discussed it yesterday, but I can´t remember the name of the bull now). So it would be good to look at our events and decisions first and than perhaps propose something other. Because now you are doing something we did already. I mean we can change it, but first have a look, please. :p

PS: My works are slower now, I am playing Heroes 6 - what a great time sinker.

EDIT: Most of the finished work is on page 11, so you don´t have to go through 5 pages of conversation. :happy:
 
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Ok, I read the discussion of page 15-16. The problem is DHE vs ND.

DHE proposal:
My idea would be that Jesuit Order arises and comes with its bonuses to a country by a country major event (the Society of Jesus event I posted before).
I saw you made an event which says the pope removed the limit and now we have jesuits in our lands. I think it would be better if the pope removes the limit by national decision and then the chances of nations getting the jesuits event increase dramatically.

ND proposal:
The arrival of the jesuits event (posted by me before) is replaced by a decision through which catholic countries can decide to get jesuit modifier.
 

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It is not problem anymore, there will be events as well as decisions.

Personally, I think your first proposal was better. Let me explain.
1. DHE - establishing Jesuit order in any catholic country
1.a) order is spreading slowly through catholic lands
1.b) the pope may remove the restrictions through national decision if the order exists
2. order is than spreading faster
3. papal decisions to spread the order to a new parts of the world.
4. DHE for countries in specific regions to accept or reject Jesuits
5. Jesuits may be expel if conditions are met
Note: I like the mechanic you proposed for spreading the order - it ensures it´s birth. On the other hand I think I have better modifiers connected to the order - your are just plain positives, there wouldn´t be reason to sack Jesuits than. I think I wrote somewhere why I made them in the way I did.
catholic: stronger conversion and papal influence, agressive heretics
orthodox: closing to the pope, traditions damaged
buddhist, hindu: tech and production boost (one affects other), too many religions (lower conversion chance), tax loss (maybe some gifts to Jesuits, compensate production)

This way, it usually gives you something (mostly tolerance, conversion, tech boost) but it takes something away. For example. If you are catholic with many protestant lands and have Jesuits, you have better chance to get rid of them (protestants). But you have to do it, because otherwise you loose more than without Jesuits (lower tolerance means more problems). Usually, my modifiers push country to some activity. It has to take advantage from the order, not just sit there.

EDIT: But I think that condition including reform desire and slow spreading of idea of this order is good. Maybe one of conditions for the pope to remove restrictions may be number of countries having the order modifier. I think I will wait for burny so we all may decide what should be changed and what not.
 

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It is not problem anymore, there will be events as well as decisions.

Personally, I think your first proposal was better. Let me explain.
1. DHE - establishing Jesuit order in any catholic country
1.a) order is spreading slowly through catholic lands
1.b) the pope may remove the restrictions through national decision if the order exists
2. order is than spreading faster
3. papal decisions to spread the order to a new parts of the world.
4. DHE for countries in specific regions to accept or reject Jesuits
5. Jesuits may be expel if conditions are met

Nice, I completely agree with this.

On the other hand I think I have better modifiers connected to the order - your are just plain positives, there wouldn´t be reason to sack Jesuits than. I think I wrote somewhere why I made them in the way I did.
catholic: stronger conversion and papal influence, agressive heretics
orthodox: closing to the pope, traditions damaged
buddhist, hindu: tech and production boost (one affects other), too many religions (lower conversion chance), tax loss (maybe some gifts to Jesuits, compensate production)

This way, it usually gives you something (mostly tolerance, conversion, tech boost) but it takes something away. For example. If you are catholic with many protestant lands and have Jesuits, you have better chance to get rid of them (protestants). But you have to do it, because otherwise you loose more than without Jesuits (lower tolerance means more problems). Usually, my modifiers push country to some activity. It has to take advantage from the order, not just sit there.
I agree with the modifiers and with the fact that Jesuits should give you bonuses as well as maluses. It makes them more interesting.
Ok, then the Jesuit Order modifier for Catholics should give:
1) -1 tolerance heretic
2) +2% missionary strength
3) -10% stability cost
4) +1 revolt risk

I don't think jesuits should give you papal influence because actually they were never really liked by Popes. In fact it was the pope who prevented Matteo Ricci from translating the bible and lithurgy into chinese so that he couln't convert chinese. Also the pope was in the XVII century near to the interests of France (see Urban VIII) while Jesuits (like Lamormaini) "supported" the Habsburg dynasty in Austria and Spain.

EDIT: But I think that condition including reform desire and slow spreading of idea of this order is good. Maybe one of conditions for the pope to remove restrictions may be number of countries having the order modifier. I think I will wait for burny so we all may decide what should be changed and what not.
Ok, then now we have to find conditions for the papal decision. I think relations with the country which "fired" the jesuit event could matter in relation to this decision.

PS: tomorrow I will be away for a trip. :D
 
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But there may be more nations with Jesuits.

I had those (they are somewhere here as well).

1. Have the modifier „The Society of Jesus“ for at least 15 years.
It took some time to thing start to moving back then
2. There are at least 10 protestant countries.
Discussed with burny - maybe too high number, I am not sure, there are a lot of HRE minors. Reflects the need of the mass organization on the catholic side
3. The sum of the diplomatic and administrative power of the ruler is at least 6 (mediocre really, but I just feel agreeing with something isn´t so hard – as was said by burny, the pope wasn´t the active figure in the proces of establishing of this order).
Everything said in the bracket
4. At least 300 administrative points.
May be set lower, but in fact it is no obstacle. You just have to save points for that. After all, not even bull is written instantly.
 

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But there may be more nations with Jesuits.

I don't understand what you mean by this.

1. Have the modifier „The Society of Jesus“ for at least 15 years.
It took some time to thing start to moving back then
2. There are at least 10 protestant countries.
Discussed with burny - maybe too high number, I am not sure, there are a lot of HRE minors. Reflects the need of the mass organization on the catholic side
3. The sum of the diplomatic and administrative power of the ruler is at least 6 (mediocre really, but I just feel agreeing with something isn´t so hard – as was said by burny, the pope wasn´t the active figure in the proces of establishing of this order).
Everything said in the bracket
4. At least 300 administrative points.
May be set lower, but in fact it is no obstacle. You just have to save points for that. After all, not even bull is written instantly.

Is this a national decision to get the jesuits modifier?
 

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Those are mine conditions for the pope to extend the order. You said you have read that. All is on page 11. We discussed it on later pages, but it is stored there.

By that note that more nations may have Jesuits I meant it would be more complicated to track the relations between them and the pope. I think we should add to my conditions at least 3 nations have Jesuits and lowered protestant condition to 5 nations.

EDIT: I have done national decision for the pope to spread the order to the Far East and the choice for the countries there. I will post it later, we should first solve all our questions.
 
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Meanwhile I would like to make a proposal for the ideas of the Knights Hospitaller, one of my favourite nations which didn't get enough flavour in my opinion.

Knights Hospitaller National Ideas

The Knights start with the traditions of +0.25 naval morale and 5% faster ships morale recovery to represent their great ability and experience in sea warfare. They have, however, a malus of -50% manpower due to the fact that the Knights were few in numbers (they never exceeded the number of 1,000) and had to rely on local troops.

1) The Langues System: -10% stability cost. The Order was divided into 8 "tongues" representing its main linguistical components: Aragon, Castile, England, France, Auvergne, Provence, Germany and Italy. This system favoured an easier organisation and management of a multi-cultural reality such as that of the Order.
2) Ecclesiastical Revenues: +10% tax income. The Hospitallers had many estates in continental Europe, especially in France, which helped funding the expensive activities of the Order.
3) Masterful Fortifications: +30% defensiveness. The fortifications of Rhodes and Malta are considered one of the finest in the Mediterranean Sea. It is not without reason that the Order repelled numerous powerful assaults by Mameluke and Ottoman forces.
4) The Grand Hospital: -10% land attrition & -30% naval attrition. The Knights were famous for their excellent Hospitals which they built both in Rhodes and Malta. These Hospitals were at the vanguard of medicine and managed several times to hinder the spread of epidemics into the islands of the Order through advanced quarantine techniques.
5) Every Galley is a Fortress: +50% galley power. The Order provided every galley with about 20 heavily armoured knights as well as with skilled sailors and marine soldiers. Its galleys became redoubtable elite units capable of carrying out targeted operations successfully.
6) The "Corso" warfare: +1 yearly naval tradition & +15% trade income. This name is used to address the naval policy of the Order which consisted of raiding every ship suspected of carrying Turkish goods . Although the Knights' official intent was that of freeing christian slaves on Muslim vessels, they often ended up raiding both Christian and Muslim commercial ships. This, however, greatly increased the income of the Order from trade activities as the knights sold many of the looted goods.
7) Indomitable Knights: +20% cavalry power. The Knights Hospitaller were notorious in the Mediterranean region for their reckless courage and formidable esprit de corps. These moral values, combined with the fine armour the Knights wore in battle, made them almost invulnerable war machines.

When fully powered up they also get a +10% bonus to discipline.
 
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Meanwhile I would like to make a proposal for the ideas of the Knights Hospitaller, one of my favourite nations which din'd get enough flavour in my opinion.

Knights Hospitaller National Ideas

The Knights start with the traditions of +0.5 naval morale and 5% faster ships morale recovery to represent their formidable ability in sea warfare.

1) The Langues System: -10% stability cost. The Order was divided into 8 "tongues" representing its main linguistical components: Aragon, Castile, England, France, Auvergne, Provence, Germany and Italy. This system favoured an easier organisation and management of a multi-cultural reality such as that of the Order.
2) Ecclestial Revenues: +10% tax income. The Hospitallers had many estates in continental Europe, especially in France, which helped funding the expensive activities of the Order.
3) Masterful Fortifications: +50% defensiveness. The fortifications of Rhodes and Malta are considered one of the finest in the Mediterrean Sea. It is not without reason that the Order repelled numerous powerful assaults by Mameluke and Ottoman forces.
4) The Grand Hospital: -40% naval attrition. The Knights were famous for their excellent Hospitals which they built both in Rhodes and Malta. These Hospitals were at the vanguard of medicine and managed several times to hinder the spread of epidemics into the islands of the Order through advanced quarantine techniques.
5) Every Galley is a Fortress: +50% galley power. The Order provided every galley with about 20 heavily armoured knights as well as with skilled sailors and marine soldiers. Its galleys became redoubtable elite units capable of carrying out targeted operations successfully.
6) The "Corso" warfare: +1 yearly naval tradition & +15% trade income. This name is used to address the naval policy of the Order which consisted of raiding every ship suspected of carrying Turkish goods . Although the Knights' official intent was that of freeing christian slaves on Muslim vessels, they often ended up raiding both Christian and Muslim commercial ships. This, however, greatly increased the income of the Order from trade activities as the knights sold many of the looted goods.
7) Indomitable Knights: +25% cavalry power. The Knights Hospitaller were notorious in the Mediterrean region for their reckless courage and formidable esprit de corps. These moral values, combined with the fine armour the Knights wore in battle, made them almost invulnerable war machines.

When fully powered up they also get a +10% bonus to discipline.

Holy... Whilst I like the idea for the knights, you've made them way too OP. Maybe tone down the numbers a little.