One of my 1.5 Achievement Games ... Aachen to Germany to HRE ... Took some tries, but was sucessful in the end
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I finally finished my Savoy->Sardinia-Piedmont->Italy(->HRE at the end) game! The Mediterranean is Mare Nostrum, and I have reconquered all the former Roman Empire territory except for a few provinces near the Black Sea.
I only formed the HRE at the end to see how much my trade and other income would shoot up. Since I PU-annexed Portugal, I have some colonial nations (one of which is fully occupied by a Castilean one but hasn't made peace for the past 10-20 years...) and random global holdings.
I have kicked out the other colonizers from Europe: Castile's capital is now Cape Town, France's is in Alaska, and Britain's is in Java. The Administrative Efficiency was a bit OP, since after taking ADM tech 29, I was able to demand all of the British isles except London and one Irish province for exactly 100 warscore. Since coring now only takes 8-9 months (at least with all my core cost reduction ideas), the fact that those provinces were over 100% OE didn't matter.
I wasn't able to convert those provinces in Arabia since I accepted rebel demands there, giving me -50% missionary strength.
Interestingly, all of my colonial nations had over 50 liberty desire for a while, but none of them rebelled.
Now it's time for me to start a brand new 1.6 game, and the Netherlands looks really promising!
I only formed the HRE at the end to see how much my trade and other income would shoot up. Since I PU-annexed Portugal, I have some colonial nations (one of which is fully occupied by a Castilean one but hasn't made peace for the past 10-20 years...) and random global holdings.
I have kicked out the other colonizers from Europe: Castile's capital is now Cape Town, France's is in Alaska, and Britain's is in Java. The Administrative Efficiency was a bit OP, since after taking ADM tech 29, I was able to demand all of the British isles except London and one Irish province for exactly 100 warscore. Since coring now only takes 8-9 months (at least with all my core cost reduction ideas), the fact that those provinces were over 100% OE didn't matter.
I wasn't able to convert those provinces in Arabia since I accepted rebel demands there, giving me -50% missionary strength.
Interestingly, all of my colonial nations had over 50 liberty desire for a while, but none of them rebelled.
Now it's time for me to start a brand new 1.6 game, and the Netherlands looks really promising!
One of my 1.5 Achievement Games ... Aachen to Germany to HRE ... Took some tries, but was sucessful in the end
That purple is entirely why I want to do a playthrough as Aachen. Their starting position makes doing anything kind of annoying though. Burgundy to the west and Austrian allies to the east because everyone you border is electors.
I did an aachen back in 1.3 or so... I allied austria too, then proceeded to look weak to Trier. He DoWed me pretty quickly, and that got the ball rolling real fast.
Germany \o/
Started with brandenburg formed prussia then germany. Also got in a PU with france then integrated.
If someone request it i can post the other maps. cya
Started with brandenburg formed prussia then germany. Also got in a PU with france then integrated.
If someone request it i can post the other maps. cya
Germany \o/
Started with brandenburg formed prussia then germany. Also got in a PU with france then integrated.
If someone request it i can post the other maps. cya
How much DIP did France cost to integrate?!
For some reason my last post dissapeared i'll try again.
I don't know exactly how much. It was decaing 15 per month for a long time. Had to convert to Catholic to make it possible because otherwise france would turn against me and would start an independence war. Integration was over at 1703. Here's the pic:
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15 a month...for 44 years...that is 7920 diplomatic points....that is insane (unless it dropped and it then went at the pace of your rulers amount of points which seems more likely as you would have been in the negatives for a long long time)
Sure it wasn't decaying when it was negative. But still...it's a lot of dip and time because eventually you will be out of dip. Also it was always 15/per month my total dip per month was 11 which makes -4. I made some math and the result was 6388 dip to integrate.
44 years * 12 months = 528
528 months * 11 dips per month = 5808
plus another 580 for the 10% that was already done that makes 6388.
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I just finished my Tuscany-> Italy -> HRE
My Italian Empire (before reforming the HRE)
My Holy Roman Empire
My Italian Empire (before reforming the HRE)
My Holy Roman Empire
Your map was just perfect but you just had to press that damn button and ruin iti finally finished my savoy->sardinia-piedmont->italy(->hre at the end) game! The mediterranean is mare nostrum, and i have reconquered all the former roman empire territory except for a few provinces near the black sea.
I only formed the hre at the end to see how much my trade and other income would shoot up. Since i pu-annexed portugal, i have some colonial nations (one of which is fully occupied by a castilean one but hasn't made peace for the past 10-20 years...) and random global holdings.
I have kicked out the other colonizers from europe: Castile's capital is now cape town, france's is in alaska, and britain's is in java. The administrative efficiency was a bit op, since after taking adm tech 29, i was able to demand all of the british isles except london and one irish province for exactly 100 warscore. Since coring now only takes 8-9 months (at least with all my core cost reduction ideas), the fact that those provinces were over 100% oe didn't matter.
I wasn't able to convert those provinces in arabia since i accepted rebel demands there, giving me -50% missionary strength.
Interestingly, all of my colonial nations had over 50 liberty desire for a while, but none of them rebelled.
Now it's time for me to start a brand new 1.6 game, and the netherlands looks really promising!
Just joking but yeah i hate how everyone forms HRE at the end of their campaigns instead of keeping their nation's colour and name.Very good map.I'm playing a Savoy-Italy game myself atm and try to conquer as much as possible so i picked different ideas than you.More expansion focused ones.Didn't you have trouble in conquest without religious ideas?I got 3 missionaries because of religious ideas and conquest of rome(turned Protestant) but without them i think i would have trouble early game.I'll post my own italy game when i'm finished
In the year 1796, King Mortiz Lancaster, First of his name, King of Great Britain and Emperor of the reunified Holy Roman Empire, took oaths of fealty from the Rajah of Vijayanagar, and so doing, brought the world under the suzerainity of the English crown.
Long live the King!
Game was started in 1.5.1, then 1.6.1 was released in about the year 1600. Based on previous experiences with WC attempts, I think the achievement is a bit easier in 1.6.1 than it was before. Late game the 2 year coring times + administrative efficiency (mine was only at 50%) made taking large swathes of land in a very short amount of time easily doable. It's probably a little harder to get through the early and mid game to the point where you snowball and can just start annihilating everyone, but end game is MUCH easier. If Vijayanagar hadn't westernized off of my PU'd Portugal without my knowing it, I probably would have gotten the achievement 20 years earlier.
I had zero truce breaks, and never went over 100% OE for more than a couple of months at a time (typically to sell extra provinces to vassals). Previous experience with not quite there WC attempts had me doing repeated truce breaks and fiddling along at -2 stability for the last few decades, and still running out of time with a decade or two left ahead of me to finish it out.
Long live the King!
Game was started in 1.5.1, then 1.6.1 was released in about the year 1600. Based on previous experiences with WC attempts, I think the achievement is a bit easier in 1.6.1 than it was before. Late game the 2 year coring times + administrative efficiency (mine was only at 50%) made taking large swathes of land in a very short amount of time easily doable. It's probably a little harder to get through the early and mid game to the point where you snowball and can just start annihilating everyone, but end game is MUCH easier. If Vijayanagar hadn't westernized off of my PU'd Portugal without my knowing it, I probably would have gotten the achievement 20 years earlier.
I had zero truce breaks, and never went over 100% OE for more than a couple of months at a time (typically to sell extra provinces to vassals). Previous experience with not quite there WC attempts had me doing repeated truce breaks and fiddling along at -2 stability for the last few decades, and still running out of time with a decade or two left ahead of me to finish it out.
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In the year 1796, King Mortiz Lancaster, First of his name, King of Great Britain and Emperor of the reunified Holy Roman Empire, took oaths of fealty from the Rajah of Vijayanagar, and so doing, brought the world under the suzerainity of the English crown.
Long live the King!
Game was started in 1.5.1, then 1.6.1 was released in about the year 1600. Based on previous experiences with WC attempts, I think the achievement is a bit easier in 1.6.1 than it was before. Late game the 2 year coring times + administrative efficiency (mine was only at 50%) made taking large swathes of land in a very short amount of time easily doable. It's probably a little harder to get through the early and mid game to the point where you snowball and can just start annihilating everyone, but end game is MUCH easier. If Vijayanagar hadn't westernized off of my PU'd Portugal without my knowing it, I probably would have gotten the achievement 20 years earlier.
I had zero truce breaks, and never went over 100% OE for more than a couple of months at a time (typically to sell extra provinces to vassals). Previous experience with not quite there WC attempts had me doing repeated truce breaks and fiddling along at -2 stability for the last few decades, and still running out of time with a decade or two left ahead of me to finish it out.
Congratz on this WC.
I was thinking about the advantages/disavantages of 1.6. The administrative efficienty is a nice advantage for sure to vassalize bigger countries with the HRE "revoke the privilegia". In which timing did you get the "revoke the privilegia"? did you rush it in priority?
In the mid game i think it's a little harder to expand because of the diplocost to annex vassals.
Each time my nightmare is Russia, the attrition is op i think . In which timing did you destroyed them?
My original intention was to take a break and perhaps play ck2, the new map convinced me otherwise.
Yeah, 48 text size for the date seems a bit too obnoxious, oh well ^^
Yeah, 48 text size for the date seems a bit too obnoxious, oh well ^^
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Moar Germany because that's the thing to do.
Started with Brandenburg, took it slow in the begining. Waited until I unlocked the morale from both defensive and my NI. Then went on a quick land grab. Held a nice tight strip along the north coast from Gelre to Memel. Then settled in to let the ae cool off.
I allied Burgundy, just in case the king died, during a war with austria. And he did!... However I forgot that bohemia was the emperor, and he got it all. Bohemia was my primary ally, he had a Hohenzollern on the throne, and I wasnt sure what to do about that. And I know how much he loves to spread that poison culture, But I was in luck. Not soon after, Lithuania dowed me because Bohemia willed his throne to me. Lithuania was a chump and an easy win, especially being 2 miltechs behind and having no allies join the war.
So that left me in control of the majority of the HRE, as Bohemia did his usual blobbing. So I just sat tight, waited 50 years (mainly due to slow ae burn) passed a few reforms, then integrated. I saved up 900 dip points, and it still wasnt enough. 157 was the total months (and basetax) but I got it done, and only about 4 techs behind in diptech.
Then I continued just playing nice with the HRE to get that 4th reform passed. You know, the 15% tax boost. Once I had that I vassalized all the electors (some via war) waited until I had about 800 adm points saved up, then went hog wild.
Took 10 provinces, and vassalized 2 more all at once.
The world didnt seem to like that much.
But what they gonna do about it?
Spent the next 20 years just messin with muscovy to get some power projection, and took a little land in italy to link up with Rome. Other than that, trying to catch back up in tech.
1635, and I hold all but 3 German provinces (well not counting Austria) Just dont know what I'm going to do with the east yet... Either need to integrate or release, cuz the buggers kill my warscore everytime.
Started with Brandenburg, took it slow in the begining. Waited until I unlocked the morale from both defensive and my NI. Then went on a quick land grab. Held a nice tight strip along the north coast from Gelre to Memel. Then settled in to let the ae cool off.
I allied Burgundy, just in case the king died, during a war with austria. And he did!... However I forgot that bohemia was the emperor, and he got it all. Bohemia was my primary ally, he had a Hohenzollern on the throne, and I wasnt sure what to do about that. And I know how much he loves to spread that poison culture, But I was in luck. Not soon after, Lithuania dowed me because Bohemia willed his throne to me. Lithuania was a chump and an easy win, especially being 2 miltechs behind and having no allies join the war.
So that left me in control of the majority of the HRE, as Bohemia did his usual blobbing. So I just sat tight, waited 50 years (mainly due to slow ae burn) passed a few reforms, then integrated. I saved up 900 dip points, and it still wasnt enough. 157 was the total months (and basetax) but I got it done, and only about 4 techs behind in diptech.
Then I continued just playing nice with the HRE to get that 4th reform passed. You know, the 15% tax boost. Once I had that I vassalized all the electors (some via war) waited until I had about 800 adm points saved up, then went hog wild.
Took 10 provinces, and vassalized 2 more all at once.
The world didnt seem to like that much.
But what they gonna do about it?
Spent the next 20 years just messin with muscovy to get some power projection, and took a little land in italy to link up with Rome. Other than that, trying to catch back up in tech.
1635, and I hold all but 3 German provinces (well not counting Austria) Just dont know what I'm going to do with the east yet... Either need to integrate or release, cuz the buggers kill my warscore everytime.
I revoked in 1561 - yes, I rushed it in priority - this led to both positives and negatives. I was forced to rush it as at some point in the 1520s, I got a female heir, so I was going to lose Emperorship for an uncertain amount of time when my current King died if I hadn't at least proclaimed Erbkaisertum - and if you're close enough to do that, you generally can just go straight to revoking by releasing a few more vassals. Downside was that I left the Iberians essentially alone, and they started colonizing like crazy (as they usually do when left alone).
I agree on Russia - they have essentially killed every previous WC attempt I had made by blobbing into Siberia and the Horde territories. I prioritized them first in this game, keeping relations high with Novgorod, and once Russia declared on Novgorod, enforcing peace on them to get into the war. I released Perm as a vassal to slow them down in getting to the Siberian frontier (about 1460). I had done this before only to see a WC attempt fall apart as they bypassed Perm and got into Siberia through the Horde nations, so this time, I followed up with several wars to get footholds near the Black Sea (starting with Georgia) and built up a wall of territory over the next 30 or so years between the Black Sea and Perm to permanently lock them out of Asia by about 1490. I pretty much ignored them from that point until Novgorod formed Russia (in about 1550) and completely ate up Muscovy, at which point I released Muscovy as a vassal (well contained so he wouldn't colonize) and over the next 100 years fed most of Russia's cores back to Muscovy.
I spent the 10 years after locking Muscovy up originally getting the Emperorship, vassalizing 4 electors in successive wars, letting HRE AE cool down in between each war to prevent coalitions - had the votes by about 1500 or so. My king was elected Emperor in 1509. At this point, I started working on a couple of different fronts - mostly preparing to take down the Iberians, but also within the Empire to get IA for reforms. Unfortunately, that's about when my King died, and I found the heir to the new King was Anne Lancaster. So I had to put my Iberian plans on hold and rush the reforms. Proclaimed Erbkaisertum in 1558, then had to wait for internal wars to die down to Revoke, which was done in 1561.
With the HRE behind me, I had Spain controlled (landlocked and feeding colonial nations to my colonial nations) by 1580 or so. Portugal was going to be a problem, but I got a lucky PU (PU Succession war with Spain) on them in 1600. That was eventually quite painful, since they blobbed out of control (eventually colonizing half of Siberia), and were about 280 BT when I integrated them (taking 24 years) starting in 1690 to bring their colonial nations under my control.