On 31 December 1499 I had 97 European cores and was 10.8% away from finishing the last three. =(
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I ran into the same problem in my Qing game. You don't necessarily need to worry about tech -- you'll still be able to westernize. You'll need to as well. Letting Russia blob to the north of you without being able to keep up in tech is... unpleasant. Try to ignore direct coring and go for diplo-annex. You don't really need a strong fleet. Anyway, I was just barely able to recreate the borders of historical Qing China by the end of my game. Coring costs in China are *crazy*.
Actually letting Muscovy get to me was the best thing. I went to war with them and picked up a line of provinces to Western Poland and will finish westernizing at 1599. Also have more or less finished taking China proper (only need to annex 2 small vassals and a large one, along with cleaning up a few minors).
Here's a picture of one of my current co-op games. The other two players are Muscovy and the Mamluks.
It went fairly well for the most part - except me being a technological backwater and one of my marches being literally worthless. Replacing them isn't worth the hassle, so I keep them for the nice look they have. :/
It went fairly well for the most part - except me being a technological backwater and one of my marches being literally worthless. Replacing them isn't worth the hassle, so I keep them for the nice look they have. :/
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Me: I think I'll just take some of these little islands in the peace deal...
France: Nope.
They have all their overseas territories occupied by, or in the ZoC of, level 8 forts. In this alternate reality if Napoleon were exiled to St. Helena he'd command a doom fortress.
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Me: I think I'll just take some of these little islands in the peace deal...
France: Nope.
They have all their overseas territories occupied by, or in the ZoC of, level 8 forts. In this alternate reality if Napoleon were exiled to St. Helena he'd command a doom fortress.
The AI gets it, this is my favourite strat. High level forts on every island, have fun invading that one!
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On 31 December 1499 I had 97 European cores and was 10.8% away from finishing the last three. =(
Managed it the second time.
Oh cool didnt know you posted this! (I'm the Mamluks player)Here's a picture of one of my current co-op games. The other two players are Muscovy and the Mamluks.
It went fairly well for the most part - except me being a technological backwater and one of my marches being literally worthless. Replacing them isn't worth the hassle, so I keep them for the nice look they have. :/
Also Byzantium, Serbia & Hejaz are vassals
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Ah, thought it was just you (Persia) in the game, until you mentioned Muscovy was also played by another player. I thought Muscovy looked too succesful to be an AI!Here's a picture of one of my current co-op games. The other two players are Muscovy and the Mamluks.
It went fairly well for the most part - except me being a technological backwater and one of my marches being literally worthless. Replacing them isn't worth the hassle, so I keep them for the nice look they have. :/
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This game is absolutely ridiculous with its bad luck sometimes. This is one of those times.
Current Danish Empire:
Colonies in the Caribbean, Eastern America and Canada, one in Eastern Africa, a few scattered provinces in India and a lot of colonization and protectorates in Indonesia/Indochina. Bavaria is in a PU since the mid-1500s, I've been feeding them Southern Germany in my spare time. Been harder ever since Saxony, an ally of mine, became Emperor.
Got kinda boring. I was thinking of invading England for Ireland, and for conquering down to Yorkshire.
Bonus Eastern European mess:
I've been thinking of starting a Republican England run, IIRC that was added as an outcome to the English Civil War, correct?
Colonies in the Caribbean, Eastern America and Canada, one in Eastern Africa, a few scattered provinces in India and a lot of colonization and protectorates in Indonesia/Indochina. Bavaria is in a PU since the mid-1500s, I've been feeding them Southern Germany in my spare time. Been harder ever since Saxony, an ally of mine, became Emperor.
Got kinda boring. I was thinking of invading England for Ireland, and for conquering down to Yorkshire.
Bonus Eastern European mess:
I've been thinking of starting a Republican England run, IIRC that was added as an outcome to the English Civil War, correct?
You should reward them for their ingenuity by conquering all of France proper, and letting France live on as a Caribbean/African country.