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Update; The Bagette made a comeback (they always do) and he's being a stubborn little frog. I've used up my 350k manpower pool trying to break him and rebuild a now vassalized Burgundy.

Definatly didnt expand as much as I thought I would... but I am the master of the Medi regardless.

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A question:
In your game San Marino's still independent?
 

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What's up with Kizil-Su? Doesn't it split your empire in half and give you horrible distant overseas penalties (I thought this is how it worked, assuming your capital is still in Constantinople)?
Distant overseas halves coring cost.
 

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I see. I learn something new every day! Is it generally worth the tradeoff against reduced province benefit, though? Or would you want to just core for distant overseas price, then remove the obstacle and "cash in"?

In such large concquest sprees money or manpower isnt really a problem (at least if you're already that big). The problem is monarch points. So you use this exploit to half you coring cost to negate this problem. Later you just diplo-annex and voila you get 0 autonomy provinces all over Asia.

Cheesy but effective. If you like it.
 

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In such large concquest sprees money or manpower isnt really a problem (at least if you're already that big). The problem is monarch points. So you use this exploit to half you coring cost to negate this problem. Later you just diplo-annex and voila you get 0 autonomy provinces all over Asia.

Cheesy but effective. If you like it.
In my Ottomans run, I did an identical thing: created a client state Kandahar to divide Asia (beginning with the trade company regions) from my mainland. Cheaper to core, free merchants, etc. Later, integrate for massive territorial boost without actually gaining anything. :)
 

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Potawatomi game, my best game in a long time! My first game posted here.


I stayed in North America and played a fairly conservative game. I let my neighbors migrate to me, typically attacking with mission claims.

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Near the end of the game, I couldn't compete against the monster Navies from Europe, so I went after the naval ideas to finish out the game. It worked. I finally had the naval forcelimit to become Master of the Seas (well, master of the Western Atlantic anyway ;) ). After the final battle of the last war was fought in the Netherlands, I even thought about going after Europeans at home. A long regency in the final decade of of the game quashed that idea.

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Perm is a vassal. I am Prussian. I am also a member of the HRE. Moldavia is still my March. I am hoping for a 1001 province with this game..
Are you not worried that moldavia is gonna convert all those catholic provinces to orthodox? or did they convert to catholic via rebels?
 

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Wanted to give the Netherlands a shot, started with Hansa, and took Exploration as my third idea set... Realised I really hate colonies and the nonsense tied with those, and started again after a hundred years or so.... Plus Burgundy was being a rather hard target, and I was slow to expand into him.

Second try, goes like clockwork (because now I had practice). Saxony wins the first election (dumb austria), so this does 2 things... first no reforms get passed (good when you are a republic) and second... My first war with burgundy caused the event to fire, and all his land went to Bavaria. This made taking "my" land so much easier...

France, Poland, and Brandenburg are my primary allies... so I'm able to expand rapidly... so rapidly I had pretty much all of the Lowlands by tech 8... and had to wait decades to finally form Netherlands.

During one of the coalition wars, I forced Austria to release Tirol... something I do every game to gimp Austria... and Tirol happily accepts vassalization (because I R Big). After I switch to reformed I take defender of the faith, and get dragged into a war to aid Croatia against Venice and the Papal state... An easy victory lets me snake Verona in order to annex Tirol. Once I had that cored, I took the mission to reclaim the Holy city.

Then after years of saving Brandenburgs bacon, he finally decided to go hostile after winning the election, and France finally rivals me. So I sit, and bide my time... looking to finish some mil ideas.

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I needed to reshuffle my alliance web after losing both France and Bb...

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However as I am the wealthiest nation on earth, It doesnt take long for Bb to realize his mistake and rejoined the fold.

So after finishing Offensive and starting Quality, I start beating on france. First war I dowed Britany, as France was his only ally, and I needed Bb to lose his french alliance to keep him honest. I was only able to take a couple provinces because 'double warscore cost' but I did manage to critically weaken France's manpower pool. Made the second war so much easier. I used up all my manpower in seiges, as I had to do little actual combat. That 30% seige bonus is actually nice. Made short work of the bagette and rebuilt Burgundy.

And this is where I leave it for snack time;

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how the fuck did you become part of the HRE? and Prussian??

I did it at Tech 10. It involves selling all of your provinces to Lith or a March to allow you to be small enough to join the HRE - have to be under 50 base tax. Marches and PUs don't count towards this base tax calculation IIRC. Sell everything that isn't required to form PLC, move capital to Danzig, cultural shift to Prussian, than form the PLC. Everything you sold to Lith instantly becomes yours again.

I had also forced the PU over Bohemia so I have been basically at a non-stop war since the game began because of the liberty desire of having TO, Lith, and Bohemia as subjects. Bohemia had to be integrated since you can only have one union to form the PLC thus why I sold provinces to Moldavia.
 
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My humble Nepal:

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So I wanted to try an Indian nation again because my last (and only) run was quite a while ago and was with the super obvious Vijaynagar. But their ideas are just meh so I decided to read through a few Indian nations and realized that most of them are just as meh. Then I hovered over Nepal (I knew they had good ideas) and was like "wooow". So they're basically the Indian Prussia. Also their colour is just this marvelous snot green. <3

I am in this position for the last 25 years or so. Mostly because of westernization, regency and my obsession with accepted cultures. Basically 80% of my country was not accepted. After I got the humanism idea and released a few big culture vassals I got like 10 accepted cultures more and my force limit, manpower and income increased by 20%. And integrating is a piece of cake with influence + admin ideas.
 
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My humble Nepal:

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So I wanted to try an Indian nation again because my last (and only) run was quite a while ago and was with the super obvious Vijaynagar. But their ideas are just meh so I decided to read through a few Indian nations and realized that most of them are just as meh. Then I hovered over Nepal (I knew they had good ideas) and was like "wooow". So they're basically the Indian Prussia. Also their colour is just this marvelous snot green. <3

I am in this position for the last 25 years or so. Mostly because of westernization, regency and my obsession with accepted cultures. Basically 80% of my country was not accepted. After I got the humanism idea and released a few big culture vassals I got like 10 accepted cultures more and my force limit, manpower and income increased by 20%. And integrating is a piece of cake with influence + admin ideas.

yep indian prussia that's for sure, I was gonna do a game as them some day. + dat spain
 

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Nepal being an "Indian Prussia" is a fine joke and no more.

Prussia is distinctive for being both the strongest NI set in the game but more relevant to this discussion, the most powerful set in the region by such a wide margin that nobody is competitive at similar numbers.

In contrast, Nepal gets...about 10% morale's worth of advantage over generic Rajput ideas and a worse leader stat bonus for combat. Even the supposedly lackluster Vijay gets 10% cavalry rather than infantry combat and is down that 10% morale only.

There is no "Prussia of India", Nepal doesn't even outcompete regional generics, Vijay, or Mughals by much (if at all in Mughals' case) ^_^. Punjab is similar too, but none of these have staggering bonuses like 20% morale, 7.5% discipline, 20% infantry combat, and -trad decay. That's so far beyond competition in Germany that it's silly and only a few nations in the world really put up a fight (France, Japan, Ottomans with right event sequencing, Sweden with its special events).
 
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Nepal being an "Indian Prussia" is a fine joke and no more.

Prussia is distinctive for being both the strongest NI set in the game but more relevant to this discussion, the most powerful set in the region by such a wide margin that nobody is competitive at similar numbers.

In contrast, Nepal gets...about 10% morale's worth of advantage over generic Rajput ideas and a worse leader stat bonus for combat. Even the supposedly lackluster Vijay gets 10% cavalry rather than infantry combat and is down that 10% morale only.

There is no "Prussia of India", Nepal doesn't even outcompete regional generics, Vijay, or Mughals by much (if at all in Mughals' case) ^_^. Punjab is similar too, but none of these have staggering bonuses like 20% morale, 7.5% discipline, 20% infantry combat, and -trad decay. That's so far beyond competition in Germany that it's silly and only a few nations in the world really put up a fight (France, Japan, Ottomans with right event sequencing, Sweden with its special events).

Compared to other Indian NI's Nepals are militarily just as superior as Prussias are compared to other European NI's. I didn't say they were as good as Prussias.
 
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