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My humble Friesland>Netherlands game in 1540:





I've been allied to France for most of the game. Just finished a war with Castille in which I took all of their current Carribean provinces (they then immediately colonised the last 2 islands in the region, but I'm not too bothered about that).

Colonising Suriname was a mistake. A mission told me to do it...

Also check out this religious map:



Austria went Protestant along with a lot of the HRE and myself (I'm not the Emperor and didn't force convert anybody). England fell to Catholic rebels but used to be Protestant. The Reformation barely touched Scandin
Why was colonizing Suriname a mistake? Don't you want to claim South America for the Dutch? You could also try to conquer Calais from the English - they don't seem very strong in your game. :)
 

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Why was colonizing Suriname a mistake? Don't you want to claim South America for the Dutch? You could also try to conquer Calais from the English - they don't seem very strong in your game. :)
I was going to grab it eventually, but the tropical modifier made colonising it so early annoying because it took a very long time to develop. During which time I was well over my colony limit due to stealing all those Spanish provinces.

I'll probably avoid Calais. Converting Catholic provinces is a pain and it'd just antagonise France.
 

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All that remains are the Muscovy and Asian naval supplies provinces. Shouldn't take me too long. I Own all of Sweden, Denmark, Pskov, Riga, what remained of Teutonic Order, and have painted some of the HRE in a lovely shade of Orthodox.

I am Emperor, I have passed the Revoke Privilegia, and have swarmed everyone. I am at war now with a few European powers, but wont take long to wipe them out and bring them too the fold.

1630 in my game...loving it! :D Could well be on for a world conquest as Norway, never mind Norwegian wood, Also...Worst leader in my game so far! :(




France was a mistake (declared on Scotland, thought they dropped their alliance with France, how wrong I was).
Palitinate refused my revoke privilegia (only nation in HRE to do so)
Muscovy is a coalition war.
 

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France Peaced out with a white peace. Muscovy is a vassal after 2 wars. Palitinate is a vassal. Working on Crimea now. Will hopefully have the game tied up with either a world conquest (will vassalise then when everyone possible is a vassal or protectorate...will hit the form HRE button). Woooooo!!!
 

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My Brandenburg game and I formed Prussia which looks sexy. :D I aim to unite germany, but won't actually form Germany, I like the flag and colour too much. :wub:
As you can clearly see a monsterous and scary france, it got into a succesion war over Castille, but I can't remember France's challenger. I'm allied with Russia atm and were both helping each other beat up Poland.
You can't see them, but there is also a giant Caddo (native american tribe) empire in north america, I don't know how they did it, but colonial nations will have a tough time beating them. Also Ottomans failed miserably in an offensive war against Poland: instead of advancing into poland in a disciplined manner and sieging the provinces they needed, ottoman troops just ran around poland hunting polish armies and eventually racked up attrition and manpower losses.
 

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I'm also playing Prussia atm (again). And It was my intent to leave france alone for the game, unfortunatly I became emporer way too early, and have had to bash frog heads often... Prussia + Reformed morale = Old prenerf Prussia Powah! I was 2 techs behind (10) vs france's gunpowder (in the first war with them) and although my troops took some serious losses, would never lose battles. It was crazy. However now, as the land tech leader, with all that morale, I stackwipe armies twice my size.

I <3 Prussia.
 

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I'm also playing Prussia atm (again). And It was my intent to leave france alone for the game, unfortunatly I became emporer way too early, and have had to bash frog heads often... Prussia + Reformed morale = Old prenerf Prussia Powah! I was 2 techs behind (10) vs france's gunpowder (in the first war with them) and although my troops took some serious losses, would never lose battles. It was crazy. However now, as the land tech leader, with all that morale, I stackwipe armies twice my size.

I <3 Prussia.
All must love Prussia <3
 

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Did someone say sand? Plenty of Sand Castles here...



Not even the Americas is safe from the sand invasion and getting in places it just shouldn't be...



Don't mind, New The Mamluks, it's too good to resist not doing that with any of 'The' countries.

World map

 
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I was going to grab it eventually, but the tropical modifier made colonising it so early annoying because it took a very long time to develop. During which time I was well over my colony limit due to stealing all those Spanish provinces.

I'll probably avoid Calais. Converting Catholic provinces is a pain and it'd just antagonise France.
Have you gone merchant republic and how much income from trade do you have?
 

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Started out as Tuscany and quickly formed Italy. I could never attack Venice because it allied with France early on. Later it also allied itself with Castille/Spain, so yeah. Fast-forward a hundred and something years and I've:
1) Defeated France twice.
2) Defeated Austria and its swarm of allies.
3) Broke the Ottomans and vassalized the Byzantines.

I did play on a little past this and conquered most of Turkey (the rest is pending, waiting on peace treaties to fade), broke France once more and am chewing away at Hungary while waiting for Venice to drop Spain as its ally. One day I'll reconquer Sicily and Venice .. ONE DAY.
 

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All must love Prussia <3
Indeed, here's what I did with the current one.



God Prussia cant trade... I tried out the Trade companies in this game... And well, if you're not going to focus everything on them, it just isnt worth much. 2 merchants and about 30 ducats.

However, THIS is what Prussia is good at.



Look at that Morale... LOOK AT IT!

Oh and I just stopped trying to get "good" generals. Just took what they gave me.

Reformed is now Great.

I took the early game slow, went tall. Buildings and all. And did my africa adventure. Let everyone else have their fun (except France, I picked on him alot) then late game, started clearing out Germany. Didnt actually form germany until about 1700. Then I cleaned it all out in one massive war with the free claims (and admin efficiency making OE painless). While I let the AE settle, I went to india (about 1714, Suez Completed in 1720).
 

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God Prussia cant trade... I tried out the Trade companies in this game... And well, if you're not going to focus everything on them, it just isnt worth much. 2 merchants and about 30 ducats.
Haven't you built any buildings in the last 100 years or how do you get so much money? What are your merchants doing? Steering or collecting? Somehow i never have those amounts of money with similar sized countries.
 

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I'd take non-WoN reformed over Buddhist or Confucian in a heartbeat, which is ludicrous but that's the reality over there.
Having company down in the pit doesn't mean that the pit is comfortable or cozy, does it now.
 

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It's not even company, Reformed as it was is still really good for the simple reason that y'know, you can actually convert stuff. Though it was redundant simply because Protestant existed. Still if you 'had' to take one, old reformed wins easily over any of the non catholic, non muslim ones.

Even with religious some conversions are close to impossible, even with cathedrals. You have to do stupid crap like releasing Najd as a vassal and getting them to convert what you need converted or something. There's just far too little missionary strength.
 

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It's not even company, Reformed as it was is still really good for the simple reason that y'know, you can actually convert stuff. Though it was redundant simply because Protestant existed. Still if you 'had' to take one, old reformed wins easily over any of the non catholic, non muslim ones.

Even with religious some conversions are close to impossible, even with cathedrals. You have to do stupid crap like releasing Najd as a vassal and getting them to convert what you need converted or something. There's just far too little missionary strength.
Non-WoN, not non-1.6. He means current Reformed without the DLC.