Someone did it with Ryuku as well, but unless you're someone like PrawnStar, I doubt anyone cares.
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Well since conquering the world as italy was tiresome enough, i did not tried to conquer world as chimu, which is in my opinion lot harder than ryuku, but i proposed it to be achievment, and asked if anyone would try to do it. As for now, no one did it yet. As far as i know.
Do you mean an Empire like a big country? If yes, then tons of people have done Native American Empires.
Yeah, like that one time someone conquered India as the Cherokee(?) and because of its ugly green color it kinda looked as if he had formed Hindustan.
My current Vijayanagar-Hindustan game, t's 1572. I have the remnants of Timurids, Kazakh and Kara Qonyhulu (or whatever theyr called) under occupation and work on colonising them.
Yes, Novgorod is growing, yes that is mega-Austria and Bohemia, and yes Denmark kicked Sweden's ass.
At first I planned not to go into Russia at all, but I think Kazachstan is okay. I would like to grab some more land in SE Asia and the Middle East, as well as westernise, but I keep getting events that throw my sliders all over the place. (BTW regarding westernisation, if I get a border with Austria and westernise, I still have to go through the Muslim group first right?
Oh, Spain kicked the Pope to Altmark and Haasa was hordified and is now being colonised by the Mamluks
Yes, Novgorod is growing, yes that is mega-Austria and Bohemia, and yes Denmark kicked Sweden's ass.
At first I planned not to go into Russia at all, but I think Kazachstan is okay. I would like to grab some more land in SE Asia and the Middle East, as well as westernise, but I keep getting events that throw my sliders all over the place. (BTW regarding westernisation, if I get a border with Austria and westernise, I still have to go through the Muslim group first right?
Oh, Spain kicked the Pope to Altmark and Haasa was hordified and is now being colonised by the Mamluks
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This is my Byzantine Empire game in 1820. I have molded the campaign around becoming an Eastern orthodox crusading theocracy with my my capital in Jerusalem. Rome, Moscow, Cairo and the future Belgrade are all in my hands as well as the extremely wealthy Greek capital Konstantinoupolis. By the year 1820, all but two recently incorporated provinces had been converted to the Orthodox faith.
The holy land under my rule.
From Egypt in the south to the Russian heartland in the north, Rome in the west to the gates of the Orient in the east. With its spiritual heart in the holy land. All under the sway of the ancient Tetragrammic Cross.
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Fist and foremost: Welcome to the forums.
Second: Congrats for playing till 1820. I tend to get bored to dead by the late XVI- early XVII century.
Now, referent to the empire: I see that Naples is independent (not your vassal either), and that Arabia (Mecca in particular) is still in Muslim hands. Any particular reason for that? Beyond that, nice Russ- I mean Byzantine Empire.
Second: Congrats for playing till 1820. I tend to get bored to dead by the late XVI- early XVII century.
Now, referent to the empire: I see that Naples is independent (not your vassal either), and that Arabia (Mecca in particular) is still in Muslim hands. Any particular reason for that? Beyond that, nice Russ- I mean Byzantine Empire.
So, happily forcing thrones and building up my Brandenburg game.
Why does this never happen when I play Poland
They did immediatly put a guarantee on me, wonder what that means.....
Why does this never happen when I play Poland
They did immediatly put a guarantee on me, wonder what that means.....
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Nice empire. I have a 1399 Byz game going myself that's in the early 1600s, and this will give me something to compare with. I've been focusing on different areas than you did and creating more vassals, but your game is pretty much what I hope to end with.
Thanks alot for the welcome.
In reply to your questions Naples has a large number of scattered American colonies, so vassalising them would be quite tricky. If I had more time incorporating all of Italy would be part of the masterplan, but it simply wasn't a priority. Additionally owning Rome was only really symbolic as the Papal states had much earlier been relocated to Bamberg.
As for Mecca, it had actually spent a long time under Austrian control before changing hands multiple times amongst the waring Arabian states. I did consider at times taking it for myself, and I had conquered and converted vast amounts of Muslim lands. But the principles of the empire were to unite the Greek, Slavic and Coptic churches under the Orthodox Patriarchate of Jerusalem, not to destroy the Islamic faith and plunder its holiest of cities, so I refrained myself.
You have to set your own limits in these games.
In reply to your questions Naples has a large number of scattered American colonies, so vassalising them would be quite tricky. If I had more time incorporating all of Italy would be part of the masterplan, but it simply wasn't a priority. Additionally owning Rome was only really symbolic as the Papal states had much earlier been relocated to Bamberg.
As for Mecca, it had actually spent a long time under Austrian control before changing hands multiple times amongst the waring Arabian states. I did consider at times taking it for myself, and I had conquered and converted vast amounts of Muslim lands. But the principles of the empire were to unite the Greek, Slavic and Coptic churches under the Orthodox Patriarchate of Jerusalem, not to destroy the Islamic faith and plunder its holiest of cities, so I refrained myself.
You have to set your own limits in these games.
I did have many vassals but I diplo annexed all of them, including Russia, which I founded as a vassal.
Which areas are you focusing on?
That makes sense. Any nation encompassing Russia's borders would gain more from continuous territory, and that means few if any vassals. As for where I'm focusing, well, one could argue that I'm not very focused at all. :laugh:
That makes sense. Any nation encompassing Russia's borders would gain more from continuous territory, and that means few if any vassals. As for where I'm focusing, well, one could argue that I'm not very focused at all. :laugh:
As you can see, I'm a ways off from where you are, but since I still have a bit less than two hundred years left, I think I can get close to where you are in that time. I won't have a continuous empire, of course, but I'm more interested in colonizing unusual places and imagining the changes that would happen as a result anyway. In my world, most of East Africa is unified under a single Orthodox vassal state, Italy is solidly back in the true faith, India has several technologically advanced (land tech 20+) Orthodox vassal states, and Greek is a significant language in the New World. It's like your unification of the Orthodox people: a wonderful re-imaging of history.[/URL][/IMG]
Looking good, kind of a foot hold all over the place. Pretty much a solid base to continue expanding in any direction, possibly event linking up India to Greece - Alex the great style.
Alexander the Great never conquered India so that doesn't make sense. He only captured a bit of land stretching the Indus but India was much bigger than that.
In addition when he left the land was in Indian rule within 10 years.
In addition when he left the land was in Indian rule within 10 years.
If we're going to nitpick, India didn't exist at the time, so of course he didn't conquer it. However, he did conquer what is today modern Pakistan, a country that until recently was part of India. I'm inclined to give fishbulb some slack, and in any case, it made perfect sense to me.
It's going well, but it occurs to me that there's a problem. When you played Byz, you played to its strengths, namely land power and proximity to a large number of technologically inferior nations. My strategy's working, but that's the issue--I'm adapting Byzantium to my strategy, while you seem to have adapted your strategy to Byzantium. Your way seems better for both a role player and a strategist now that I'm really considering it. My way's leading me to the same empire I build with every country, and it's failing to utilize the unique opportunities Byz provides. I'll have to be more mindful of this in my next game.
Anyway, I like the idea of connecting to India. It'll give me something to do when I'm not smacking around Austria, and it will help correct the problem I mentioned above. It plays to Byz's strengths, and it certainly works for roleplaying given the status of Alexander's empire in the Greek collective consciousness.
I'd be interested to see how you get on with Brandenburg, probably one of the middling-hard countries to play, I will probably try Bohemia first.
Why does this never happen when I play Poland
Try to build your sphere of influence up in your next game. I now do that as a matter of course and I inherit almost everything I have a PU with now.
I thought it simply meant that they guarantee to defend you if someone declares war on you. It gives them a CB against anyone who declares war on you although, counter-intuitively, they are not obliged to do so.